Batman is far from realistic. We're talking about a guy who dodges bullets by sensing pressure changes in the air WHILE the bullet is flying towards him.
If we're going to disqualify Val for being unrealistic, we have to disqualify Batman, Batgirl, Lady Shiva, Captain America, Nightwing, etc, etc. We'd probably be down to Huntress as the best.
Originally posted by Validus
Batman is far from realistic. We're talking about a guy who dodges bullets by sensing pressure changes in the air WHILE the bullet is flying towards him.If we're going to disqualify Val for being unrealistic, we have to disqualify Batman, Batgirl, Lady Shiva, Captain America, Nightwing, etc, etc. We'd probably be down to Huntress as the best.
I've seen Shang Chi do the unbelievable many times.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I thought that was daredevil??? 😕
Originally posted by leonidas
mystic? he CAN use mystic abilities, but like kk hasn't he mastered like, EVERY martial form? and since he is about 5000 years more advanced than even kk . . . 🙁 just seems bats 1M should be able to do everyone kk can and more -- even without going all 'mystic' on their arses!and ill, EVERYONE will be diminished. mantis still has her skill. hell, cap couldn't even HIT her! with the skill of these guys, all these fights would be one shot kills. only hope is to block and dodge. IF you're hit, you're dead . . .
Finally, somebody understands!
See? This is the real world I have placed them in. Our world. No help.
Just their mushy human bodies, and whatever knowledge is in their mushy human brains.
No powers to call upon. Mystic, or otherwise.
If it glows, gives augmented strength or speed, etc., it can't be used.
And yes, a lot of times in our world, a crack with a crowbar will kill us!
Some of these dolts will want to fight it out, one on one, with the others.
Some might find a way to trap the rest, burn them, poison them.
Some might be good with a bow, a spear, etc.
They are now all weak, and all trying to survive! All these once powerful beings that we envied so much. That caused our world to shake. That stomped on our little houses.
Now they have to worry about being stabbed, hit, choked, etc.
Originally posted by docb77
I think the thing with saying no powers is that real earth physics apply. If someone could do it in our "universe" then it's legal in this fight. Some of the things people do in the comics with "only training" just aren't realistic and should be considered powers.That said, I still say batman.
Again, an "Apt Pupil". You understand, and are correct.
Some guys are still in shape, some guys are still big, some guys still fat, some are still fast, but no superhuman anything. Some dumb, some mean, some crazy.
What do they do?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Finally, somebody understands!See? This is the real world I have placed them in. Our world. No help.
Just their mushy human bodies, and whatever knowledge is in their mushy human brains.No powers to call upon. Mystic, or otherwise.
If it glows, gives augmented strength or speed, etc., it can't be used.
And yes, a lot of times in our world, a crack with a crowbar will kill us!Some of these dolts will want to fight it out, one on one, with the others.
Some might find a way to trap the rest, burn them, poison them.
Some might be good with a bow, a spear, etc.They are now all weak, and all trying to survive! All these once powerful beings that we envied so much. That caused our world to shake. That stomped on our little houses.
Now they have to worry about being stabbed, hit, choked, etc.
oh fire is allowed? then doctor doom sprays everyone with gasoline from a nearby gas station, and lights a match.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Personally, I think................
Wonder Woman will offer sex in order to be left alone. (So will Apocolypse)
Not likely.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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You guys are deluding yourselves
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And that was only after a quick google search of WW's combat skill.
Never mind the fact that she was already completely depowered once and still kept fighting the good fight
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And that's ignoring the fact that Depowered WW defeated simultaneously 4 powered amazons in battle. That's how skilled she is.
Still wont let her win but she survives a LOT longer than any other powered being.
Originally posted by beatboksHercules still survives longer than her. He beats most of his opponents through the use of skill and dirty fighting and he's also been depowered and was still a match for elektra. Likewise, Thor has similar feats and his pain tolerance is probably the best of any high herald.
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/110095/3255100-6623816150-31114.jpgAnd that was only after a quick google search of WW's combat skill.
Never mind the fact that she was already completely depowered once and still kept fighting the good fight
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/110095/3365390-1676496733-33122.gifAnd that's ignoring the fact that Depowered WW defeated simultaneously 4 powered amazons in battle. That's how skilled she is.
Still wont let her win but she survives a LOT longer than any other powered being.
Originally posted by deathslash
Hercules still survives longer than her. He beats most of his opponents through the use of skill and dirty fighting and he's also been depowered and was still a match for elektra. Likewise, Thor has similar feats and his pain tolerance is probably the best of any high herald.
