Originally posted by Betageuze
poor Juggernaut fan....in a serious , good written match, Thing CANNOT knocked out by ANY guy .. with raw power.... so the Juggs - Thing thread is awesome bad written....
a veteran like Thing would give Juggernaut a very very good fight... and perhaps he would win
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Betageuze....man seek help, take some pills , get a girlfriend , get a grip...just relax..it's not funny , it's stupid and way past annoying..
One more thing Hulk is not your father/brother/friend , not a real person...just a comic book character - few ideas on paper, no need to make it an idol....if u wanna worship someone..try history u may find real people who actually did something heroic..
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Originally posted by Chaholdrudan
Betageuze....man seek help, take some pills , get a girlfriend , get a grip...just relax..it's not funny , it's stupid and way past annoying..One more thing Hulk is not your father/brother/friend , not a real person...just a comic book character - few ideas on paper, no need to make it an idol....if u wanna worship someone..try history u may find real people who actually did something heroic..
Well said.
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Originally posted by Chaholdrudan
Betageuze....man seek help, take some pills , get a girlfriend , get a grip...just relax..it's not funny , it's stupid and way past annoying..One more thing Hulk is not your father/brother/friend , not a real person...just a comic book character - few ideas on paper, no need to make it an idol....if u wanna worship someone..try history u may find real people who actually did something heroic..
who the hell is that
I think it is time to put this whole who is stronger business to rest.
listen the way it goes is like this Juggernaut stated unlimited pushing power no force on earth can stop him when he moves forward.
Now as for War Hulk the reason is simple mystical or high ranking energies have been shown to mess with Jugg's magical powers, a magic sword has cut him but only because it is magical no pure physical force has ever been shown to stop him or hurt him as War was amped up on CELESTIAL TECH it doesn't count as pure strength overcoming Juggs.
Also though Hulk is said to have unlimited strength through Rage.
Listen everyone who says that there can not be unlimited Rage it is a comic and therefore most often you have to assume that he can get stronger.
Do to Juggs mystical nature though so no physical force will ever be able to hurt him as we've seen many times from Dr. Strange magic is almost the end all of comics.
Juggernaut can get "stronger" through focus when he is focused he better uses the powers with him. He can also get stronger through emotions as well as shown in his fight with D'Spayre that things like Rage can also fuel his power.
It is also logical that Juggs can put his unlimited pushing power and convert it to lifting power as he has never been shown to never be able to lift something.
Now as to who is stronger no one knows as a definitive fight has never taken place.
I believe however do to Jugg's unlimited Durability and stamina he can go one fighting to the end of time. Plus the lack of Hulk's skill in the mystic arts department Juggernaut well written should be able to match Hulk until Hulk can no longer fight do to time and strain.
This is about the most unbiased post one can make on this subject.
Originally posted by Betageuze
poor Juggernaut fan....in a serious , good written match, Thing CANNOT knocked out by ANY guy .. with raw power.... so the Juggs - Thing thread is awesome bad written....
a veteran like Thing would give Juggernaut a very very good fight... and perhaps he would win
Collossus would own Thing, not mentioning Classic Juggernaut. What he did to Thing, was the right thing written.
I am not Juggernaut fan, and if you know me, I am not close Juggernaut fan.
Originally posted by Betageuze
Hulk and HULK KILLER HUMANOID are... but not Juggernaut
No, they aren't.
Originally posted by Betageuze
realize the facts man
I think you are the one who should realize the facts, because Juggernaut took him out with 3 punches, fact.
Originally posted by Betageuze
"If i could read just one comic this whole year , issue 457 would be it.. this issue should end the juggernaut
Hulk was able to that because of Apocalypse.
Originally posted by Betageuze
BUT NEVER... ever... within 3 punches....
He did it.
Originally posted by Betageuze
Thing has intelligence... fighting experience... awesome physical power....
The Thing awesome power (which is not so awesome) is not close match for Classic Juggernaut or Hulk physical power, and even Collossus is stronger than The Thing.
But I agree that Hulk phyiscal power is beyond that of Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Collossus would own Thing, not mentioning Classic Juggernaut. What he did to Thing, was the right thing written.
I am not Juggernaut fan, and if you know me, I am not close Juggernaut fan.No, they aren't.
I think you are the one who should realize the facts, because Juggernaut took him out with 3 punches, fact.
Hulk was able to that because of Apocalypse.
He did it.
The Thing awesome power (which is not so awesome) is not close match for Classic Juggernaut or Hulk physical power, and even Collossus is stronger than The Thing.
But I agree that Hulk phyiscal power is beyond that of Juggernaut.
I thought Thing is equal to Colossus in strength.
Betageuze you're really something I don't wanna write down. I was a huge Thing fan once, I like Juggernaut, but these two are not in one league. Maybe the Ultimate Thing is in one League, with the weakened Juggernaut from Uncanny X-Men 435-436 - The Trial Of The Jeggernaut episodes...But no Thing version is in one league woth the Classic Juggernaut.
Originally posted by samishe
I thought Thing is equal to Colossus in strength.
He's more than an equal...
616 Colossus hasn't had any real outstanding feats that says that he's stronger than 616 THING...
And Ben would demolish Colossus he is his superior in almost every catagory.
THING 9/10 over Colossus
Originally posted by Tony StarkThing is tough. But I don't see him winning 9/10. Maybe 4/10.
He's more than an equal...616 Colossus hasn't had any real outstanding feats that says that he's stronger than 616 THING...
And Ben would demolish Colossus he is his superior in almost every catagory.
THING 9/10 over Colossus
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