Durability

Started by Kontraz6 pages

i'm sure a good many of the transformers would survive. If the power is based on ripping electrons from their atoms, the TFs generally (especially the 'cons) have specified shields in place against electromagnetism, etc.

In the MK series, when they displayed some of Blackagar's triumphs, he merely trembled his lips without uttering a word and caused a " cosmic " level being to flinch.

Here. Black Bolt basically punks off a GALAXY collector. His voice must have some effect on cosmic level beings considering this one flinched -- which isn't an easy feat when most cosmic entities consider anything lower than themselves to be ants.

He blinked.

Although Black Bolt didn't even use his voice yet...just was preparing to use it. Pretty impressive.

juggernaut could take that scream!

Not without passing out at least.

Classic Juggernaut would take it and more than likely get K.Oed. Current Juggernaut -- would be destroyed.

No, Classic Juggernaut could take the scream with no problem. He's invulnerable to all forms of injury.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He blinked.

Although Black Bolt didn't even use his voice yet...just was preparing to use it. Pretty impressive.

This alone should put an end to using BB in a vs thread ever again...I had no idea he was that powerful. To think I was pissed about his killing Apoc.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
No, Classic Juggernaut could take the scream with no problem. He's invulnerable to all forms of injury.

No he's not. Nimrod took him out with sonic blast to inner ear.

If Black Bolt would whisper near his ear, he would be knocked out.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
No, Classic Juggernaut could take the scream with no problem. He's invulnerable to all forms of injury.

He was to a point. Juggernaut was only as powerful as the mystical energies from Cyttorak that flowed through him and Cyttorak is only around skyfather-level if I'm not mistaken.

With enough power someone could overcome Cyttorak enchantments and physically hurt Juggy (i.e. Onslaught). Now if Black Bolt's scream is a concern to cosmic being, then Classic Juggernaut would have a real problem with it.

Not to mention he's been telepathically K.O'ed how many times? While he might have been somewhat physically invulnerable, apparently his mind isn't entirely invulnerable. The shock waves from his quasi-sonic scream would lay Classic Juggernaut out for awhile though he might be physically unharmed. Current would still be obliterated. 😉

I honestly don't know why people say its sonic. It has been shown to be once or twice, but that was a mistake. He scrambles the electrons off your atoms. Nobody but those without atoms and electrons would survive. They'd either implode or scattered at the atomic level.

With his helmet on, he's invlunerable, and once he stands there with his shield on nothing can hurt him.

Onslaught hit Juggernaut, but I dont think he felt pain.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
With his helmet on, he's invlunerable, and once he stands there with his shield on nothing can hurt him.

Onslaught hit Juggernaut, but I dont think he felt pain.

Onslaught did a lot more than hit Juggernaut. Not only did he cause Juggy physical pain, he also beat him to within an inch of his life and ripped the Cyttorak gem out of his body.

Keep in mind that this was only with Onslaught had the power of Xavier and Magneto (he hadn't absorbed X-Man's or Franklin's powers yet). Juggernaut's powers come from a sky-father level being, with enough power you can overcome whatever enchantments Cyttorak has placed on the gem or its wielder.

A full charged scream from Black bolt would kill superman, it has been said that he can take a ground zero 5megaton warhead, blackbolts scream is equivalent to about a 90megaton nuke.

Originally posted by King KAM
A full charged scream from Black bolt would kill superman, it has been said that he can take a ground zero 5megaton warhead, blackbolts scream is equivalent to about a 90megaton nuke.

When was that said? Superman was next to Pluto when it exploded.

Originally posted by Validus
When was that said? Superman was next to Pluto when it exploded.
inhis star labs report

Well their info is obviously wrong. 😄

Originally posted by TheKahn
Onslaught did a lot more than hit Juggernaut. Not only did he cause Juggy physical pain, he also beat him to within an inch of his life and ripped the Cyttorak gem out of his body.

Keep in mind that this was only with Onslaught had the power of Xavier and Magneto (he hadn't absorbed X-Man's or Franklin's powers yet). Juggernaut's powers come from a sky-father level being, with enough power you can overcome whatever enchantments Cyttorak has placed on the gem or its wielder.

That was after the 8th day saga, Cyttorak had already began taking Juggernauts powers back.

The proof is in the Juggernaut respect thread