Someone else comes to mind who could drop Juggernaut like a baked potato but im to shy to say who.
Oh yeah. for the record. When Gladiator was created his confidence wasn't made as a weakness but a strength. He has no weakness. Once he has the confidence to do it he can. In his reg. power level he is indestructable. With his confidence power no one can do him.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
here is the scan right now i have 76 juggernaut comics😄
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I think it is time to put this whole who is stronger business to rest.
listen the way it goes is like this Juggernaut stated unlimited pushing power no force on earth can stop him when he moves forward.
Now as for War Hulk the reason is simple mystical or high ranking energies have been shown to mess with Jugg's magical powers, a magic sword has cut him but only because it is magical no pure physical force has ever been shown to stop him or hurt him as War was amped up on CELESTIAL TECH it doesn't count as pure strength overcoming Juggs.
Also though Hulk is said to have unlimited strength through Rage.
Listen everyone who says that there can not be unlimited Rage it is a comic and therefore most often you have to assume that he can get stronger.
Do to Juggs mystical nature though so no physical force will ever be able to hurt him as we've seen many times from Dr. Strange magic is almost the end all of comics.
Juggernaut can get "stronger" through focus when he is focused he better uses the powers with him. He can also get stronger through emotions as well as shown in his fight with D'Spayre that things like Rage can also fuel his power.
It is also logical that Juggs can put his unlimited pushing power and convert it to lifting power as he has never been shown to never be able to lift something.
Now as to who is stronger no one knows as a definitive fight has never taken place.
I believe however do to Jugg's unlimited Durability and stamina he can go one fighting to the end of time. Plus the lack of Hulk's skill in the mystic arts department Juggernaut well written should be able to match Hulk until Hulk can no longer fight do to time and strain.
This is about the most unbiased post one can make on this subject.
newjak, that was a great post. I was going to say something similar. War Hulk is an anomaly, as the same as Mindless Hulk. Now with Juggernaut, we've seen what the Cyttorak Gem can do, once granting Juggernaut the strength to punch through dimensions. To be honest, I don't really think that Hulk can defeat Juggernaut on a normal means, considering that Juggs can't be stopped unless you also have a magical means to do so. Doctor Strange could beat Juggernaut because he can throw Juggernaut into another dimension. Hulk nowadays vs Classic Juggernaut means that it's a Hulk fry.
As for the Hulk Killer Humanoid, if Betzague does one more thread on this forum about that stupid robot, I'm gonna scream, and report him. The HKH was beaten by a transformer. An inadimate object. The HKH could be defeated by Aunt May with a tazer.
MARCUS ARE U STUPID????
NOWADAYS IN INCREDIBLE HULK IRONMAN AND FURY ABANDONED HIM IN AND SEALED HIM IN ANOTHER WORLD.
HULK: 'HULK THING TOO MUCH. HULK NO UNDERSTAND. HULK NOT THINK. HULK JUST SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do u think he'll care that juggs unstoppable?????
he'll just smash through him to get to fury and ironman
^ Okay, don't make these arguments personal. First of all, it wasn't Fury who decided to put Hulk through a wormhole. It was the Illuminati. Do your damn research. He wouldn't smash through Juggernaut, considering Juggernaut can smash back just as bad. Also, It's not just Juggernaut that can take the Hulk. Every member of the Illuminati has done it before. Hell, most of them have done it with relative ease. Also, the Sentry is more powerful than he is, and could kill Hulk with relative ease as well. However, he chose not to. Do your research, and don't make arguments personal. Also, don't call people who are smarter than you idiots, because they dwarf you in the intelligence department.
Originally posted by Betageuze
we all know that Juggs strength has limits... and that of a Mindless, total out of control Hulk.. has NO limits....so Juggernaut will be stopped.. and Juggernaut will be beaten
end of debate
where have we seen Juggernaut's strength limits?
when was he not able to do something?
Originally posted by Xplosive
True, but Hulk also beat him down. But if we take War Hulk, he stopped Juggernaut in movement.
probably just by surprising Juggernaut with an unusual amount of power that Juggs didn't expect. or a type of power that the Cyttorak power has less of an effect against. (Celestial energy)
Originally posted by samishe
That Juggy never lifted a mountain doesn't mean that Hulk is stronger.
personally, i think that feat should be disgarded as a strength feat.
it is more like Gladiator lifting the Baxter building.
if the weight of a mount rested on ANYTHING, it would simply sink into the mountain after the rock and dirt crumbled.
Period.
It ranks up there with how the Submariner was once able to jump out of the ocean, and fly to another galaxy in minutes.
Not possible, bad writing.
