Originally posted by zephiel7
Malak was seen doing the same. Revan is stronger than Malak. Vader is weaker to lightning than any of the Jedi Malak was fighting. Revan also battle precognition, an advantage Sidious does not have. He can pull it off.
Malak was seen choking two Jedi who could have been weaker then TPM Anakin or more powerful then Yoda.
What he did also does not compare to launching a full scale lightning attack towards somebody and fighting off another Jedi at the same time.
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
Revan's lightning dissolves off Vader's saber. Revan's lightning is not visibly superior to Palpatine's. Next.
I wouldn't really say that, Lightning that kills Rancors and several people at the same time does seem superior to what Sidious unleashes, but Revan his lightning does not give him victory so its irrelevant.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I don't see them getting past 4.
Oh please, Glentract.
Dooku tooled Asajj with force lightning and tooled her in matter of seconds in a lightsaber duel. Anakin before ROTS had some trouble with her but Vader is Anakin who can use his anger at will and has more than 2 decades of additional force and lightsaber training + some nice lightsaber duelling experience (since he proceeded to kill Jedi after ROTS).
Asajj will be gone in the matter of seconds and Dooku isn't enough to defeat Sidious and Vader at once.
If the'll go down they'll go down at 7 but even there Sidious could take down Bastilla with force lightning rather fast and they would possibly be able to take down Malak and Bandon.
I don't see how...
Malak would face Sidious Bandon and Bastila would face Vader... Or maybe Bandon and Malak would face Sidious, well doesn't matter. Whoever has two against him is going to die, as long as Malak fights Sidious that is. Bandon can hold off Vader long enough for Malak and Bastila to kill Sidious, and Bastila can do the same.
Malak is greater with a lightsaber then Sidious anyways and I don't see Sidious destroying Malak with his force powers.
He killed the Rakatan scout party's with his lightning, the Rakatan scout party's had rancors with them...
Those little baby ones? Meh, not all of their scout parties had Rancors, did they? Of the few you encounter, not all do. Anyways, OT Sidious is a step up from ROTS Sidious, and arguably equal to DE Sidious, considering we've never seen him exert himself... And Vader is 80% of that...
IMO, ROTS Sidious was around Malak's level, below in saber ability, but this one has 20 years more of experience. Whether he practised his saber is uncertain, but the man has insane force abilities.
They make it through, but are hard pressed in the last fight.
Vader repeatedly throws Bandon away with the force and hacks away at Bastilla while Sidious uses his force powers to overcome Malak.
Or if Bastilla uses battle meditation then Vader chokes Bandon, then cuts down Bastilla who is off sitting in the back. He then helps Sidious finish off Malak.
Those little baby ones? Meh, not all of their scout parties had Rancors, did they? Of the few you encounter, not all do. Anyways, OT Sidious is a step up from ROTS Sidious, and arguably equal to DE Sidious, considering we've never seen him exert himself... And Vader is 80% of that...
No, not all of them but he killed several of them, so he must have met one with Rancors, and yeah they were baby's, but Rancors are still pretty tough and he killed several of them along with other people at once... Not saying his lighting is the uber shit but its pretty nice anyways
IMO, ROTS Sidious was around Malak's level, below in saber ability, but this one has 20 years more of experience. Whether he practised his saber is uncertain, but the man has insane force abilities.
Sidious undoubtly had practice since ROTS, but how much? He didn't have any Jedi to fear and he was greatly protected. The 80% quote is also somewhat vague as it does not mention in what, and we have no real way of telling how powerful Vader was compared to Sidious. And Sidious himself we don't know how much more powerful he became, we know he never showed the skills he showed in DE though. So its safe to assume he wasn't that powerful. I wouldn't rank him higher then ROTS sidious at least not by a lot, simply because we don't know... So saying he's more powerful is kinda hard to do...
Yeah, but DE takes place 7 years after ROTJ. DE Palpatine only really has 7 years plus of experience and a younger body. Given 27 years od experience he increased greatly. 20 years he would have likely increased greatly too.
However, in DE it's presumed he "studied harder" considering he didn't have to worry about his Empire as much by then. But Palpatine did write three large encyclopedias on the Dark Side in those 20 years, so I think it's safe to assume he did improve.
Well, the 80% quote was about power. I believe George Lucas went on to explain something about how the better fighter is the "Master" in Sith ways, so I think he was referring to combat abilities. I think it's a valid number, in both saber ability and force powers.