The problem that almost always comes up when people pit Superman against just about any Marvel character is the speed issue. One of Superman's powers is that he has near-Flash like speed and that level of speed is very rarely seen in any Marvel character. However most people seem to only concentrate on his other, perhaps more celebrated, powers and do not realize just what a big advantage this is.
In practical terms, this allows Superman to move/attack much faster than his opponents can even form a single thought. He can literally end a fight in a fraction of a second if he wanted to leaving even those opponents, who may have the level of firepower needed to actually hurt Superman, without the time needed to react. They do not have the time they need to form thought to create shields, use an energy/telepathic attack, or much less actually attempt to strike Superman.
Superman is of a different type of being than most characters in Marvel. Imo, he is more comparable to heralds than to most Marvel earth superheroes given his incredible strength, speed, and energy attacks. Now I can understand if people think that him having this much power makes him uninteresting as personal tastes are just that: personal. But given that he does have this much power, only the higher tier characters in Marvel would be a real challenge to him and these three fall far short.
Superman 10/10.
Originally posted by grey fox
Excuse me he's HALF kryptonion . It's easy to make HALF of something . We can make HALF human/animal hybrids with our current tech.
zoy?
not unless we have found a way to randomly generate additional chromosomes for species...
lol, its only been a few years since we compleatly mapped the generic human geome...
Originally posted by grey fox
Excuse me he's HALF kryptonion . It's easy to make HALF of something . We can make HALF human/animal hybrids with our current tech.
We aren't the high evolutionary now are we🙂 Not even close as a matter of fact.
It doesn't matter as I said given 3 days of prep these three will have a strong showing and I would give them 6/10 fights maybe even 7/10 with their prep.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The problem that almost always comes up when people pit Superman against just about any Marvel character is the speed issue. One of Superman's powers is that he has near-Flash like speed and that level of speed is [b]very rarely seen in any Marvel character. However most people seem to only concentrate on his other, perhaps more celebrated, powers and do not realize just what a big advantage this is.In practical terms, this allows Superman to move/attack much faster than his opponents can even form a single thought. He can literally end a fight in a fraction of a second if he wanted to leaving even those opponents, who may have the level of firepower needed to actually hurt Superman, without the time needed to react. They do not have the time they need to form thought to create shields, use an energy/telepathic attack, or much less actually attempt to strike Superman.
Superman is of a different type of being than most characters in Marvel. Imo, he is more comparable to heralds than to most Marvel earth superheroes given his incredible strength, speed, and energy attacks. Now I can understand if people think that him having this much power makes him uninteresting as personal tastes are just that: personal. But given that he does have this much power, only the higher tier characters in Marvel would be a real challenge to him and these three fall far short.
Superman 10/10. [/B]
co-sign
Originally posted by inamilist
zoy?not unless we have found a way to randomly generate additional chromosomes for species...
lol, its only been a few years since we compleatly mapped the generic human geome...
Originally posted by Juntai
How would HE -GET- his DNA??
Originally posted by soleran30
We aren't the high evolutionary now are we🙂 Not even close as a matter of fact.It doesn't matter as I said given 3 days of prep these three will have a strong showing and I would give them 6/10 fights maybe even 7/10 with their prep.
I'm just de-railing Xplosives attempts of trying to make me look like a supes fanboy.
I swear i heard somewhere it's now possible for us to add cow dna/chromosomes/whatever the hell to egg cells thus creating a hybrid child.
Originally posted by grey fox
I swear i heard somewhere it's now possible for us to add cow dna/chromosomes/whatever the hell to egg cells thus creating a hybrid child.
ok 🙂
i get what you are talking about
they do lots of stuff like that with vegtables to make them resistant to pests so they dont have to spray
we are thinking differant definitions of "Hybrid", but ya, you are correct as far as i know, it should be possible to do that kind of thing
weather its a perfect science or ethical, thats a differant topic 🙂
Xavier is perhaps the most useless member of the Marvel team. Not only does Torquasm Vo and his willpower allow Superman to resist outright telepathic control or attacks (as we have seen it took Max Lord years to be able to control Superman) and the fact that Xavier seems to have trouble with alien minds, but also sensing someone's mind is present on the battle field a nano-second before they crush your skull really isn't that helpful.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The problem that almost always comes up when people pit Superman against just about any Marvel character is the speed issue. One of Superman's powers is that he has near-Flash like speed and that level of speed is [b]very rarely seen in any Marvel character. However most people seem to only concentrate on his other, perhaps more celebrated, powers and do not realize just what a big advantage this is.In practical terms, this allows Superman to move/attack much faster than his opponents can even form a single thought. He can literally end a fight in a fraction of a second if he wanted to leaving even those opponents, who may have the level of firepower needed to actually hurt Superman, without the time needed to react. They do not have the time they need to form thought to create shields, use an energy/telepathic attack, or much less actually attempt to strike Superman.
Superman is of a different type of being than most characters in Marvel. Imo, he is more comparable to heralds than to most Marvel earth superheroes given his incredible strength, speed, and energy attacks. Now I can understand if people think that him having this much power makes him uninteresting as personal tastes are just that: personal. But given that he does have this much power, only the higher tier characters in Marvel would be a real challenge to him and these three fall far short.
Superman 10/10. [/B]
There's just one problem, and I brought this up in the Wonder Woman vs Avengers thread. If you give a Marvel character prep, and the DC character goes rushing in, they may run right into something that will f*ck them up royally. The scenario I used was Superman vs Iron Man. If Superman goes rushing toward Iron Man if Iron Man has had time to prep himself against Superman, he may end up face first with a lethal amount of kryptonite radiation, or red sun energy. With prep, this means that Xavier has Cerebro. Superman wouldn't have it easy with Magneto or Apoc, and then Xavier would just make him tie his cape around his butt and make him think he's a baby.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
There's just one problem, and I brought this up in the Wonder Woman vs Avengers thread. If you give a Marvel character prep, and the DC character goes rushing in, they may run right into something that will f*ck them up royally. The scenario I used was Superman vs Iron Man. If Superman goes rushing toward Iron Man if Iron Man has had time to prep himself against Superman, he may end up face first with a lethal amount of kryptonite radiation, or red sun energy. With prep, this means that Xavier has Cerebro. Superman wouldn't have it easy with Magneto or Apoc, and then Xavier would just make him tie his cape around his butt and make him think he's a baby.
What does apocalypse bring to this team ? , aside from a big fat losing streak that is.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
There's just one problem, and I brought this up in the Wonder Woman vs Avengers thread. If you give a Marvel character prep, and the DC character goes rushing in, they may run right into something that will f*ck them up royally. The scenario I used was Superman vs Iron Man. If Superman goes rushing toward Iron Man if Iron Man has had time to prep himself against Superman, he may end up face first with a lethal amount of kryptonite radiation, or red sun energy. With prep, this means that Xavier has Cerebro. Superman wouldn't have it easy with Magneto or Apoc, and then Xavier would just make him tie his cape around his butt and make him think he's a baby.
The problem is that even with prep, none of them could actually hit something moving at the speed of light.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
There's just one problem, and I brought this up in the Wonder Woman vs Avengers thread. If you give a Marvel character prep, and the DC character goes rushing in, they may run right into something that will f*ck them up royally. The scenario I used was Superman vs Iron Man. If Superman goes rushing toward Iron Man if Iron Man has had time to prep himself against Superman, he may end up face first with a lethal amount of kryptonite radiation, or red sun energy. With prep, this means that Xavier has Cerebro. Superman wouldn't have it easy with Magneto or Apoc, and then Xavier would just make him tie his cape around his butt and make him think he's a baby.
whatever they do, it would have to be there before the fight started
so, like, they would have to be emmiting radiation or whatever they were going to do before supes went for a speedblitz, because he moves so fast that they wouldnt be able to react to him.
even with cerebro, superman will attac xavier before he has a chance to think
we would have to get really creative to think of a proper sort of "trap" that could effectivly stop superman, that would be sort of omnipresent on the battlefield....
Originally posted by soleran30
We aren't the high evolutionary now are we🙂 Not even close as a matter of fact.It doesn't matter as I said given 3 days of prep these three will have a strong showing and I would give them 6/10 fights maybe even 7/10 with their prep.
Prep time is really overrated against Superman. I know this is a rather humerus take on the situation, but I think it proves a point. Superman has a great variety of ways to win.
Originally posted by inamilist
whatever they do, it would have to be there before the fight startedso, like, they would have to be emmiting radiation or whatever they were going to do before supes went for a speedblitz, because he moves so fast that they wouldnt be able to react to him.
even with cerebro, superman will attac xavier before he has a chance to think
we would have to get really creative to think of a proper sort of "trap" that could effectivly stop superman, that would be sort of omnipresent on the battlefield....
Not to mention the fact that Superman has a plethora of super sense (he can even see souls!) which should be able to detect any potential trap. 😬
And even given that, Superman has a variety of long range attack that very few people in Marvel could even survive. I mean he could simply engulf the entire battle field with heat vision that is hotter than the sun and never get close to the other team.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Not to mention the fact that Superman has a plethora of super sense (he can even see souls!) which should be able to detect any potential trap. 😬And even given that, Superman has a variety of long range attack that very few people in Marvel could even survive. I mean he could simply engulf the entire battle field with heat vision that is hotter than the sun and never get close to the other team.
We'd watch them fry like sauasages. Yum .
Originally posted by TheKahn
Not to mention the fact that Superman has a plethora of super sense (he can even see souls!) which should be able to detect any potential trap. 😬And even given that, Superman has a variety of long range attack that very few people in Marvel could even survive. I mean he could simply engulf the entire battle field with heat vision that is hotter than the sun and never get close to the other team.
ya, he is a toughie
im not trying to say that mags/apoc/Xavier dont have to ability to kill superman
but, they could really only do it if he stood still and let them
Have any of you seen the dark Phoenix saga?
Xavier managed to battle against jean grey powered by the PF.
And xavier does not need to control supes, if we are talking an all out attack like supes whit is supers-speed, then xavier will just wipe is mind clean, like he did to magneto when he went berserk because he extracted the adamantium from wolverine.
point of fact, supes does have an incredible resistance to mental control, but to a mental attack?
Don't think so.
