Originally posted by spideycarnage
black panther with prep (he'll use some sorta sonic granade thingy), venom wins if theres no prep involved.
Yes. Exactly how Batman would take out Spiderman (with prep). Hit him with something he cannot neccessarily dodge, even with his impressive speed. Once incapacitated, it's over. Without prep BP and BM lose. With it they win.
Originally posted by james1865
Yes. Exactly how Batman would take out Spiderman (with prep). Hit him with something he cannot neccessarily dodge, even with his impressive speed. Once incapacitated, it's over. Without prep BP and BM lose. With it they win.
i agree with you on bat takin venom with prep but now way is he takin out parker with or without prep
How would he be able to take out Venom but not Spiderman? Spiderman has trouble with Venom himself. Batman sets it up, in some clever way because he is that smart, so that Spidey meets him in an abandoned warehouse , tosses a sonic grenade (Bats is wearing hearing protection; it's not something Spidey can dodge) that knocks Spidey out a la a thunderclap. Next thing Spidey knows, he's hanging upside down in the Bat Cave by the T Rex robot and the giant penny.
Originally posted by james1865
How would he be able to take out Venom but not Spiderman? Spiderman has trouble with Venom himself. Batman sets it up, in some clever way because he is that smart, so that Spidey meets him in an abandoned warehouse , tosses a sonic grenade (Bats is wearing hearing protection; it's not something Spidey can dodge) that knocks Spidey out a la a thunderclap. Next thing Spidey knows, he's hanging upside down in the Bat Cave by the T Rex robot and the giant penny.
i love the idea of spidey hangin upside down in the batcave 馃槅 馃槅 but i know he wont lose to batman i jus cant see it happen, spidey aint a fool sure venom in a out an out fight can take out spidey but a battle of wits he will lose big, as for batman vs spiderman, batman is but a mere human even with prep and i dont see parker losin against him
what does a thought-up scenario about batman v. spider-man have to do with black panther v. venom? yes, t'challa is one of the most cunning minds in the marvel universe, and has planned things out to the very letter in many occasions, but that doesn't mean without planning he's completely useless in a throwdown. not to mention he's been decked by, and has in turn decked, namor [whose strength is about 5-7 times that of venom.] and i'm sure his claws or energy daggers could hack through whatever tendrils brock threw his way. i don't see how venom could pull out a win.
Originally posted by Disappear
what does a thought-up scenario about batman v. spider-man have to do with black panther v. venom? yes, t'challa is one of the most cunning minds in the marvel universe, and has planned things out to the very letter in many occasions, but that doesn't mean without planning he's completely useless in a throwdown. not to mention he's been decked by, and has in turn decked, namor [whose strength is about 5-7 times that of venom.] and i'm sure his claws or energy daggers could hack through whatever tendrils brock threw his way. i don't see how venom could pull out a win.
man its jus the booze talkin with me at this point added with some green herbs...dont mind me 馃槑
i think venom takes this, but it wouldnt be easy..but as for batman taking down spiderman, i dont see how that would be even close to being possible, even with prep and gadgets(which is his standard equip. to begin with), seeing as how spideys got a spider-sense and that protects himself and keeps almost anyone from touching him except for the powerhouses(Hulk, Namor, Superman, Captain Marvel ect.)....but as far as all street-levelers, spidermans basically the superior...10 ton strength=max street-level strength, dramatically enhanced reflexes, agility, webshooters, spidey sense makes spidey basically untouchable IMO..and someone like batman on peak human level wouldnt have nething on him, with just a couple of gadgets
when has panther ever been without prep? it's not like he needs to sit in a dark room and think up contingencies, the guy is as quick on his feet as the dark knight himself. besides that, he's got backup plans for just about everyone in the MU, GALACTUS included. if he was able to think up a way to get the big G the hell off the planet, i'm sure he could put together a simple strategy to **** up venom's day during the process up a fight.
and t'challa doesn't wear street clothes, by the by, his suit's got cloaking tech in it. he's always in costume, putting his claws, energy daggers and vibranium jumpsuit at hand all the time. and, with a right hook that can lay out namor, i think he could easily hold his own against venom. not to degrade the guy, but he's pudding compared to some of panther's sparring partners.
Originally posted by Disappear
when has panther ever been without prep? it's not like he needs to sit in a dark room and think up contingencies, the guy is as quick on his feet as the dark knight himself. besides that, he's got backup plans for just about everyone in the MU, GALACTUS included. if he was able to think up a way to get the big G the hell off the planet, i'm sure he could put together a simple strategy to **** up venom's day during the process up a fight.and t'challa doesn't wear street clothes, by the by, his suit's got cloaking tech in it. he's always in costume, putting his claws, energy daggers and vibranium jumpsuit at hand all the time. and, with a right hook that can lay out namor, i think he could easily hold his own against venom. not to degrade the guy, but he's pudding compared to some of panther's sparring partners.
Exactly. I agree 100%. And considering that Black Panther has Avengers status, I'm sure he's well informed of nearly every major villain in the Marvel Universe. ( Not that his OWN personal resources wouldn't be more accurate. ) Being the monarch of Wakanda means he has to know any and all possible threats that could invade his country, along with their weaknesses. This being said, Venom and Carnage are most certainly " major " adversaries. Which means he more than likely knows the extent of their abilities.
Black Panther also carries something called a Kimoyo card.( Bantu for "Of the Spirit." ) It is basically a Palm Pilot amped to the nth degree. It functions a lot like the Avengers' communicards, but with a lot more practical applications (in issue #14, for example, Panther called up a virtual schematic of a jumbo jet's cockpit controls and took command of the plane, landing it safely in a river). He's also had it run the name of specific villains and got a dossier of their strengths and weaknesses.
And we all know Venom and Carnage are susceptible to extreme sound, heat, cold, etc. Correct? And no one else thinks he'd win considering his entire life exists around VIBRANIUM which can channel, re-channel, absorb and virtually control all sound? Black Panther would mop the floor with Carnage and Venom with the push of a button. Black Panther doesn't need PREP-TIME, he's always prepared.
Originally posted by braz
hmm it still seems though, that venom would be too quick on his feet for black panther, and could shoot his webshooters at him get a hold of him like w/ a rope n slam him into a building and cause major internal bleeding...or would vibranium protect against that too?
I agree..Venom 8/10