Originally posted by Crease
Apoc has no chance because Marvel writes him jobbing EVERY time. No jobbing on either side, this goes 50/50.No prep, with their most powerful membership, the X-men beat the FF 4/10. With prep FF could never lose to the X-men.
Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.
Wolverine>Thing
Storm>Reed Richards
Pheonix>Sue Storm
Colossus>Human Torch
X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.Wolverine>Thing
Storm>Reed Richards
Pheonix>Sue Storm
Colossus>Human Torch
X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.
Enemy of the state was bullshit , and it was barely a fight anyway.....
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.Wolverine>Thing
Storm>Reed Richards
Pheonix>Sue Storm
Colossus>Human Torch
X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.
Enemy of the State was an example of very poor writing and only fanboys honestly think it wasn't PIS incarnate.
Pheonix is a cosmic being that beat just about anyone. Sue could kill most of the X-Men with little more than a thought, the Human Torch could melt Colossus in a second, and the only way Storm can beat Reed is if he keeps her distance (but then again she is one of the most powerful mutants on the entire planet).
Oh and the Thing easily handles Wolverine. ✅ You may not want to look at this...
Regardless, it isn't the Fantastic Four versus the X-Men but the Super Skrull vs Apocalypse. The Super Skrull has more control over his powers than does the FF and Apocalypse has a completly different power set than the X-Men.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Enemy of the State was an example of very poor writing and only fanboys honestly think it wasn't PIS incarnate.Pheonix is a cosmic being that beat just about anyone. Sue could kill most of the X-Men with little more than a thought, the Human Torch could melt Colossus in a second, and the only way Storm can beat Reed is if he keeps her distance (but then again she is one of the most powerful mutants on the entire planet).
Oh and the Thing easily handles Wolverine. ✅ You may not want to look at this...
Regardless, it isn't the Fantastic Four versus the X-Men but the Super Skrull vs Apocalypse. The Super Skrull has more control over his powers than does the FF and Apocalypse has a completly different power set than the X-Men.
Oh I but I remember the 5th of November (the date I read Enemy of the State) Wolverine whooped his freaky looking A$$ when he was really trying to kill him.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
What happened is what happened...Wolverine stabbed Thing, Thing dropped, fight was over. There is really no use argueing because it HAPPENED!!!!! 😆
If you will take the five seconds it would require to read the rules of this forum you will see that a fight just being published isn't enough for it to be considered valid. Spiderman beating Firelord "happened" but everyone with half a brain considers it PIS, just like Wolverine suddenly becoming able to stab the Thing when Wolverine, himself, has stated on panel before that he couldn't even pierce the Thing's skin.
But as you say Wolverine would win every fight he is put in on this forum, I doubt you are good friends with logic and deductive reasoning. Then again, few Wolverine fanboys are...
As I grew Up in New York, My family lived next to a comic book store. But when they closed, I got into the habit of just basing my opinions on what shows I saw. After watching the X-men Animated series, I loved the character of Apocalypse. Sure he was a trash talker but he could back it up. Then when I moved, I noticed we were near another comic book store. This is how I currently got back into reading but oh how disappointed I was when I read the Apocalypse comics. Sure,he had the same cocky persona, but he lost to basically weak underlings. I tend to separate the comic book version of Apocalypse from the show.
In the show
Apocalypse> >>Super Scrull
comics= well lets just say, he is gonna take another nap
Originally posted by Big Sexy
As I grew Up in New York, My family lived next to a comic book store. But when they closed, I got into the habit of just basing my opinions on what shows I saw. After watching the X-men Animated series, I loved the character of Apocalypse. Sure he was a trash talker but he could back it up. Then when I moved, I noticed we were near another comic book store. This is how I currently got back into reading but oh how disappointed I was when I read the Apocalypse comics. Sure,he had the same cocky persona, but he lost to basically weak underlings. I tend to separate the comic book version of Apocalypse from the show.
In the show
Apocalypse> >>Super Scrull
comics= well lets just say, he is gonna take another nap
Almost the sam story as with me. I grew up with cartoon, seing Apocalypse so vastly powerful, phisically shown to be completely indestrucible (we never saw him being stratch or even hurt one iota, no matter what attacked him, the ship which analized him, couldn't find one weakness in him, when Xavier tried to go in his mind, he almost died, and he actully destroyed X-Men extremely easily, like insects they were to him), in cartoon described as personfication of evil that can never be destroyed. He was showed as higher being than in comic.
I picked comic and seeing him, and I was dissapointed, because comic Apocalypse and cartoon Apocalypse are completely different in power level.
