Originally posted by TheKahn
Let me guess: Wolverine losing = bad writing 🙄Lobo beating Wolverine was bad writing because a inferior character (Wolverine) won in a poorly conceived way to a superior one (Lobo). Here a superior character (Daredevil) beat a inferior one (Wolverine) using his martial arts skills.
Thats the way it is with DD vs Wolverine...DD beating someone with the fighting prowess that Wolverine has is a joke that Ennis guy sucks...alot.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
There is no way in hell that DD is a better fighter than Wolverine. Wolverine just usually goes berserk and doesnt use his training. But in this case with his preparation and knowing that DD is a martial artist I'm pretty sure that he will use his traing and take the Devil down.
Yeah, and besides, didn't you say that this is now a clear-headed Wolverine instead of a berserker one? In that case, Wolverine pulls all of his martial arts skills to take DD down.
Originally posted by inamilist
DD is a better fighter than wolverinehe is basically a ninja, and he uses his training more effectively
Why? Because Wolverine doesn't stand around in flashy martial arts posses use elaborate throws? That would just prolong any fight he gets in. Wolverines best advantage is that he is capable of taking almost any hit. He doesn't have to worry about the dodge and can concentrate solely on hitting his opponent when their guard is down. If Wolverine fought Daredevil, Matt would be scewed in under a minute.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man is able to web up Wolverine while Logan is trying to talk Spider-man out of fighting after being blasted twice by an Omega level mutant...How is that revlevent?
Because it shows webbing can incapacitate him.
And he got blasted by an Omega level mutant means what? considering he recovered
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Why? Because Wolverine doesn't stand around in flashy martial arts posses use elaborate throws? That would just prolong any fight he gets in. Wolverines best advantage is that he is capable of taking almost any hit. He doesn't have to worry about the dodge and can concentrate solely on hitting his opponent when their guard is down. If Wolverine fought Daredevil, Matt would be scewed in under a minute.
your logic proves my argument though
wolverine doesnt worry about getting hit, he doesnt worry about fancy techniques because, for the most part, he just shreds things
DD HAS to be worried about getting hit, since he has human level durability. He has to know how to hit people in debilitating places and he has to know how reverse the attacks of other fighters.
this would boil down to a very "non-comic"esque fight, where one fighter with more technical experience beats another with a higher durability and weapons
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Because it shows webbing can incapacitate him.And he got blasted by an Omega level mutant means what?
That he wasn't at his fighting best when he was talking to Spider-man. The fact remains that out of all the fights between Spider-man and Wolverine the only time he has successfully managed to web Wolverine up was when Wolverine wasn't fighting Peter or expecting him to act so rashly.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That he wasn't at his fighting best when he was talking to Spider-man. The fact remains that out of all the fights between Spider-man and Wolverine the only time he has successfully managed to web Wolverine up was when Wolverine wasn't fighting Peter or expecting him to act so rashly.
Right, and we know of course that Spider-man was dead serious when he did that.
And whether it's only the time he succesfully managed to web him doesn't matter that much since he never used his full set of his abilities to do so from their past encounters. He basically tried to handle him physically and not rely on his webbing that much.
Originally posted by inamilist
your logic proves my argument thoughwolverine doesnt worry about getting hit, he doesnt worry about fancy techniques because, for the most part, he just shreds things
DD HAS to be worried about getting hit, since he has human level durability. He has to know how to hit people in debilitating places and he has to know how reverse the attacks of other fighters.
this would boil down to a very "non-comic"esque fight, where one fighter with more technical experience beats another with a higher durability and weapons
Wolverine can take Matts best shots a thousand fold with out being koed (we're talking about a guy who regrew a new heart in three panels).
Anyway how does any of that translate to Matt being more skilled? Most of the people Wolverine fight all have superhuman stats (ie speed and agility) and healing factors and when he attacks... he hits thim. He doest flail his arms wildly and hope he hits, no he hits because he is incredible skilled and accurate. The fact that on the rare occasions where Wolverine fights a street with out a healing and he misses is PIS pure and simple.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine can take Matts best shots a thousand fold with out being koed (we're talking about a guy who regrew a new heart in three panels).Anyway how does any of that trasnalate to Matt being more skill? Most of the people Wolverine fight all have superhuman stats (ie speed and agility) and healing factors and when he attacks... he hits thim. He doest flail his arms wildly and hope he hits, no he hits because he is incredible skilled and accurate. The fact that on the rare occasions where Wolverine fights a street with out a healing and he misses is PIS pure and simple.
lol
well, i did say wolverine beats DD in my first post
im just saying, that wolverine is compleatly outclassed as far as skill or technique goes
IMHO, the only reason he wins are the claws + regen
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
DD has none of those. That was bad writing. Just because it happened in a comic book doesnt mean it would really happen. Wolverine beat Lobo in a comic book.
Erm, just because it happened in a comic book?
Maybe you need to be reminded of this, but Wolverine and Daredevil are COMICBOOK characters!
It will ALWAYS happen in a comic book, at least as pertinent to KMC comic-book-versus forum (meaning that every matchup will stem from comic books).
Thus, unless you can show a world where an actual Wolbereen (oops, Wolverine) faces off against a real Matt Murdock, then everything will ALWAYS happen in comic books.
Now, the Lobo/Wolverine fight.
The reason that doesn't count is because:
1) It wasn't cannon.
2) Most importantly it was a fan-voted result.
However the DD/Wolverine thing shown above was:
a) Cannon.
b) A 100% Marvel affair with no fan-votes.
Anyways, if you can show a way where it doesn't happen in comic books then you are more than welcome to enlighten everyone here at KMC.
However, I sadly have to inform you that it ALL happens in comics. Wolverine, DD, Superman, Wonderwoman, Prof.X, the Hulk.
All of it is fiction.
Pure fiction ......fiction in the form of pictograms and bubble-encapsulated words.
Thus your statement that 'it happened in a comic book doesnt mean it would really happen' is not only moot but rather disturbing.
Hope you are not on psychedelics!
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Heres Wolverine beating up spider-manhttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5584939
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5583855
Wow. One scene snippets of the fight.
Good job. Also nice job not showing us any of Spider-mans past battles just before the fight.