Batman and Wolverine vs Captain America and Daredevil

Originally posted by jrodslam
DD wasnt hurt as bad as Wolvie. He was up and walking on his own. Maybe Dd used the weight as a last resort, but im sure he wouldnt have needed it at all if he decided to fight Wolverine back in the first place. ANd no i wouldnt die if i had a kitanan in my lung. It would all depend on my blood loss and my physical health slightly.
And like i said before. Victory comes in different ways. Being KO'd is one of them, but immobilizing your opponent is another way of victory. Wolvie was down foor the count. Wolvie snapping back into control is even more reason for DD to get the victory, because thats what he was trying to do from the beginning. And yes, a punctured lung would stop Wolvie for a while.

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I've found one official problem with Wolverine's strength feats... While they may be valid feats, they're only as good as the next peak human's feats. Holding up an elevator fora few seconds is cool, but Batman ripped a metal pipe off of the ground and fairly casually tossed it away. I have no idea which would be harder, as both are well beyond me, but if one has superhuman strength, then one really can't say that the other does not. For all intents and purposes, their strengths are close enough to equal, with a VERY slight nod to Cap and Wolverine in that category.

I'd lean towards giving the win to Wolverine and Batman. Batman's arsenal is nowhere near as powerful as Cap's shield, but at the same time, it is much more versatile. So while I think it would be insanely close in pure h2h, I give a slight edge to Batman when everything is factored in, because his gadgets are more effective against street types than just the shield alone.

Wolverine is a big factor as well. Hate him however much you want, he IS powerful when we're talking about peak humans. Going by even the upper 2/3 of his healing feats, neither Cap nor DD should be able to put Logan down for any amount of time. The skill between these 4 is close enough that any pure h2h fights between them would be excellent, to say the least. But Wolverine is armed, and way the hell more durable than the other 3 put together.

Basically, Wolverine would do very well against both Cap and DD by himself. Throwing Batman in to help him (even though Batman, again, could probably take either to at least a stalemate alone) puts the solid majority into their corner.

Originally posted by capt it up
are u kidding me? if he had a sword through u. U would not be up u be out cold or dead? wolverine u say is out for the count? realy now? ecpt he was still able to talk and told DD to stand away from him becuase he thought he might not keep control and attack DD. if u honestly think wolverine was down u know nuthing about wolverine at all. a sword though wolverine would never put him down, he stay down becuase and the answer is simple because he gained control of him self again and need to telll DD some thign befor he lost it again.

Naw im not kidding at all. If i landed on a sword, its not a 100% chance im gonna die. I could go into shock and scream my ass off. I may just stay silent. Wolverine was out of the fight. He was lying on the ground and didnt even bother to try and get up. He was complaining about his lungs filling up and how much it hurted grimacing and everything.
He told DD to stay back because he didnt want to waste any time trying to get it out. He just wanted to tell Matt what was going on. He knew they were going to port him back to base. That why he said he didnt know how long it was going to last. Not because he was going to attack DD. I dont know Wolverine at all? Hes been downed with things less that that. He stayed down and gained control and needed to tell DD something before he got ported away. Not because he was affraid hed attack him again.

If you look on the same page he was lying on the ground, you see the 2 people chatting.

Person 1: Whats happening Wolfgang? Why isnt he responding to our instructions?

Person 2: His systems gone into shock, Elsbeth. Im contacting the technicians now and organizing a SPACE-SHIFT. We need to bring him in as soon as POSSIBLE.

Wolvie knew they were gonna port him back because he failed. Thats why he told Matt he didint know how long it was gonna last. Thats why he wanted to hurry and give Matt the news and didnt want him to waste time helping him.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Naw im not kidding at all. If i landed on a sword, its not a 100% chance im gonna die. I could go into shock and scream my ass off. I may just stay silent. Wolverine was out of the fight. He was lying on the ground and didnt even bother to try and get up. He was complaining about his lungs filling up and how much it hurted grimacing and everything.
He told DD to stay back because he didnt want to waste any time trying to get it out. He just wanted to tell Matt what was going on. He knew they were going to port him back to base. That why he said he didnt know how long it was going to last. Not because he was going to attack DD. I dont know Wolverine at all? Hes been downed with things less that that. He stayed down and gained control and needed to tell DD something before he got ported away. Not because he was affraid hed attack him again.

If you look on the same page he was lying on the ground, you see the 2 people chatting.

Person 1: Whats happening Wolfgang? Why isnt he responding to our instructions?

Person 2: His systems gone into shock, Elsbeth. Im contacting the technicians now and organizing a SPACE-SHIFT. We need to bring him in as soon as POSSIBLE.

Wolvie knew they were gonna port him back because he failed. Thats why he told Matt he didint know how long it was gonna last. Thats why he wanted to hurry and give Matt the news and didnt want him to waste time helping him.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I've found one official problem with Wolverine's strength feats... While they may be valid feats, they're only as good as the next peak human's feats. Holding up an elevator fora few seconds is cool, but Batman ripped a metal pipe off of the ground and fairly casually tossed it away. I have no idea which would be harder, as both are well beyond me, but if one has superhuman strength, then one really can't say that the other does not. For all intents and purposes, their strengths are close enough to equal, with a VERY slight nod to Cap and Wolverine in that category.

I'd lean towards giving the win to Wolverine and Batman. Batman's arsenal is nowhere near as powerful as Cap's shield, but at the same time, it is much more versatile. So while I think it would be insanely close in pure h2h, I give a slight edge to Batman when everything is factored in, because his gadgets are more effective against street types than just the shield alone.

Wolverine is a big factor as well. Hate him however much you want, he IS powerful when we're talking about peak humans. Going by even the upper 2/3 of his healing feats, neither Cap nor DD should be able to put Logan down for any amount of time. The skill between these 4 is close enough that any pure h2h fights between them would be excellent, to say the least. But Wolverine is armed, and way the hell more durable than the other 3 put together.

Basically, Wolverine would do very well against both Cap and DD by himself. Throwing Batman in to help him (even though Batman, again, could probably take either to at least a stalemate alone) puts the solid majority into their corner.

Originally posted by capt it up
he even said for matt to stay away becuas ehe did not no how long his control would last. honestly wolverien was far from out of the fight if he had no gain back control there is no doubt in my mind he would of gotten right back up. look at the pic I posted do u see the silver sam stabbign wolverien in the stomack? a starved wolverien who ahd not slept in days got stabbed in the stmack by one of the best swords men aalive and was easiliy still able to fight so please tell me how that sword through wolverine put him otu of the fight? ur just making that up in ur hea dim sorry but wolverine did not lose and was far from beaten and DD needed plot devices to keep his ass alive.

He didnt say that he didnt know how long the control would last. He said he didint know how long "this" would last. Meaning time to give him the message. Note that the panel right before that has Wolfgang telling Elsbeth that hes organizing a space-shift to teleport Wolvie back to base as soon as possible. Wolvie knew he failed and was gonna get ported back. Thats why he said he didint know how long it was gonna last. He knew theyd be porting him any moment so he just wanted to get the info out.

Wolverine was still able to fight after being stabbed in the stomach by SS? SS was still holding on to the blade. All Wolvie did was lift a arm and extract the caws. How am i making a story up? Its what happened. You say DD used a plot device to beat Wolvie yet, Wolvie was the one who showed up with 50 ninjas. Im sure he was doing that to make DD more tired right? Get him exhausted so hed be easier to kill. Sounds like a plot device to me. Too bad it didnt work.

Originally posted by jrodslam
He didnt say that he didnt know how long the control would last. He said he didint know how long "this" would last. Meaning time to give him the message. Note that the panel right before that has Wolfgang telling Elsbeth that hes organizing a space-shift to teleport Wolvie back to base as soon as possible. Wolvie knew he failed and was gonna get ported back. Thats why he said he didint know how long it was gonna last. He knew theyd be porting him any moment so he just wanted to get the info out.

Wolverine was still able to fight after being stabbed in the stomach by SS? SS was still holding on to the blade. All Wolvie did was lift a arm and extract the caws. How am i making a story up? Its what happened. You say DD used a plot device to beat Wolvie yet, Wolvie was the one who showed up with 50 ninjas. Im sure he was doing that to make DD more tired right? Get him exhausted so hed be easier to kill. Sounds like a plot device to me. Too bad it didnt work.

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverien dident lose though. he fell on a sword and there was nuthing not a hting that said or showed he could not of gotten right back up, hell all his feats show that it be easy as hell for him to get back up. wolverine tripped and fell on a sword please tell me how in the world would the make DD win? wolverine was fine he was a ltitle hurt but nuthin gshowed he could not get back up. also when he said I don't know how long this will last. ya remeber he told DD to get away from him he would not say that unelss he was afraid he attack DD.

How is it that Wolvie didnt lose? He had a mission and failed it. Daredevil hit him, Wolvie fell back and got impailed. Nothing that showed he couldnt have got back up? Maybe maybe not. Hes tearing, complaining about that pain and grimacing. When he told DD to get away from him, it want because he was affraid of attacking DD. It was because he knew they were going to port him away and just wanted to tell Matt the plans. That why he said he didint know how long it was going to last. Wolvie was in pain. Helping him to get up would have huet and thus took away from Wolvie delivering the message. Thats why he didnt want to be moved. He just wanted DD to listen.

This took Wolvie down.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I've found one official problem with Wolverine's strength feats... While they may be valid feats, they're only as good as the next peak human's feats. Holding up an elevator fora few seconds is cool, but Batman ripped a metal pipe off of the ground and fairly casually tossed it away. I have no idea which would be harder, as both are well beyond me, but if one has superhuman strength, then one really can't say that the other does not. For all intents and purposes, their strengths are close enough to equal, with a VERY slight nod to Cap and Wolverine in that category.

I'd lean towards giving the win to Wolverine and Batman. Batman's arsenal is nowhere near as powerful as Cap's shield, but at the same time, it is much more versatile. So while I think it would be insanely close in pure h2h, I give a slight edge to Batman when everything is factored in, because his gadgets are more effective against street types than just the shield alone.

Wolverine is a big factor as well. Hate him however much you want, he IS powerful when we're talking about peak humans. Going by even the upper 2/3 of his healing feats, neither Cap nor DD should be able to put Logan down for any amount of time. The skill between these 4 is close enough that any pure h2h fights between them would be excellent, to say the least. But Wolverine is armed, and way the hell more durable than the other 3 put together.

Basically, Wolverine would do very well against both Cap and DD by himself. Throwing Batman in to help him (even though Batman, again, could probably take either to at least a stalemate alone) puts the solid majority into their corner.

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Originally posted by jrodslam
How is it that Wolvie didnt lose? He had a mission and failed it. Daredevil hit him, Wolvie fell back and got impailed. Nothing that showed he couldnt have got back up? Maybe maybe not. Hes tearing, complaining about that pain and grimacing. When he told DD to get away from him, it want because he was affraid of attacking DD. It was because he knew they were going to port him away and just wanted to tell Matt the plans. That why he said he didint know how long it was going to last. Wolvie was in pain. Helping him to get up would have huet and thus took away from Wolvie delivering the message. Thats why he didnt want to be moved. He just wanted DD to listen.

This took Wolvie down.

nm, i saw the images wrong 😛

anyways, how does he puncture a lung on a sword if his rib cage is protected by adamantium?

Wolvie isn't dumb enough to fall for that move, that's a load of bull. Batman loses to cap and then wolvie takes down Batman and DD one by one.

Originally posted by inamilist
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6257033

if wolvie has an adamantium skeleton, how does this go through him

in fact, how does he puncture a lung if his ribs are adamantium?

ya, i changed the first part cause i saw that he was stabbing through the stomach not slicing through the shoulder as i had first though, given the angel of the sword in the second scan.... lol, whatever

ya, that was just kinda general interest, oh, btw, punctured lung isnt necessarily a kill on an average human, it just demands immediate medical attention. It is possible to live with only one lung

Originally posted by inamilist
ya, i changed the first part cause i saw that he was stabbing through the stomach not slicing through the shoulder as i had first though, given the angel of the sword in the second scan.... lol, whatever

ya, that was just kinda general interest, oh, btw, punctured lung isnt necessarily a kill on an average human, it just demands immediate medical attention. It is possible to live with only one lung

Originally posted by capt it up
fail a mission that wolverien even said he was trying not to kill another cape does not mea DD wins.

No. Wolverine said that he tried to make sure they didnt bag another mask. He wasnt talking about Matt. He was talking about Elektra.

Originally posted by capt it up
Also im sorry but there no a single bit of evidence that wolverine could not of gotten abck up. I already showed two pic that shwo that a sword through wolverien would not put him down.

The evidence is in the way Wolvie looked. It was obvious he ws in much more pain when against DD than he was against SS.

Originally posted by capt it up
also that new pic u showed as I recall they were even fighting and DD a hit wolverine becuase he was going after some one esle.

Wolverine WAS going to go after someone(which was Punisher). Daredevil got in his way. Wolverine told DD to move, but DD said no. Its not like Wolverine was distracted. Hell, he even cut Matts billyclub. He made the first attack/advancement.

Originally posted by capt it up
also it was written by enis, which on thsi forum msot eveyr one agree enis well writting other character in punisher comics never writtes them ever correctly.

Now its the wrinters fault? If no character is written correctly by Enis, then both Wolvie AND DD were jacked up right? No excuse.

Originally posted by capt it up
also ur using evidence form a comic were wolverien drank acid. are u serous that be impossable. wolevrine would enevr drink acid he smell it in a seconds.

Would he? Stop crying. It was in a liquor bottle. Wolvie wouldnt think acid was in it.

Originally posted by inamilist
ya, that was just kinda general interest, oh, btw, punctured lung isnt necessarily a kill on an average human, it just demands immediate medical attention. It is possible to live with only one lung

Thats what im saying. Plus the kitana must have went through the ribs when he fell on it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
No. Wolverine said that he tried to make sure they didnt bag another mask. He wasnt talking about Matt. He was talking about Elektra.

ACTAULY HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THEM.

The evidence is in the way Wolvie looked. It was obvious he ws in much more pain when against DD than he was against SS.

DUDE U SAY HE WAS CRYING FROM PAIN, BUT MOST LIKLY HE WAS CRYING FOR THE FACT HE BEEN KILLING PEOPLE WHO DID NUTHIGN WRONG> ALSO NAME A TIME UVE EVER SEEN WOLVERIEN CRY BEISDES TEHN? ALSO BOTH THOS OTHER STAB WOUNDS WOULD OF BEEN A LOT MORE DAMAGING SO NO WOLVERINE WAS FAR FROM DOWN FOR THE COUNT?

Wolverine WAS going to go after someone(which was Punisher). Daredevil got in his way. Wolverine told DD to move, but DD said no. Its not like Wolverine was distracted. Hell, he even cut Matts billyclub. He made the first attack/advancement.
AGAIN UR USING A COMIC THAT AHD SO MUCH SHIT WRONG WITH IT IT SHOULD ENEVR OF BEEN ALOUD. ALSO WHY WOUDL THAT PUT WOLVERIEN DOWN WHEN STABBS TO THE THROE NEVER DO OR BULLETS?

Now its the wrinters fault? If no character is written correctly by Enis, then both Wolvie AND DD were jacked up right? No excuse.

NO WOLVEIRNE AND SPIDERMAN for one were very badly written they were written out of character and written as idiots.

Would he? Stop crying. It was in a liquor bottle. Wolvie wouldnt think acid was in it.

Originally posted by capt it up
CRYING? HOW AM I CRYING? ARE U KIDDING ME UR TALKEN ABOUT A GUY WHO SMELLS BETTER THEN DD. U THINK DD WOULD DRANK ACID?

Your complaining about Enis as the writer. Talking about how he messes up characters. If you didnt notice BOTH DD and Wolvie were in the book. Are you saying that he only messed up Wolvie but not DD? Wolvies sense of smell being better than DD's can be debated.