Destoyer vs Tyrant

Originally posted by Larceny
I'll post later, but it's common knowledge that Thor dominated Infinity Watch, and shortly after had the upper hand against Thanos.

Now let's clarify why this is irrelevant.

1. Thor was blood-lusted with Warrior Madness...i.e. not the normal Thor.
2. THOR HAD THE POWER GEM
3. Infinity Watch, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, etc. etc. were holding back. They wanted to save Thor, not harm him.
4. one more time, THOR HAD THE POWER GEM

That is what is really common knowledge.

I've already posted a blood-lusted (as blood-lusted as he can be) surfer destroyed by Tyrant, as well as others who opposed Tyrant and sought his destruction at all costs.

Constrast this with your Thor example, where they were unwillingly fighting against their friend Thor and didn't wish to harm him.
Oh, and Thor was blood-lusted and had the POWER GEM.

1. Has Tyrant been injured, damaged or killed?

2. By who, and how?

3. Has Destroyer been damaged or destroyed?

4. By who, and how?

5. Has anybody or anything been able to withstand his disintegration blast?

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Are you blind?

So then by using your shitty logic Odin and all upper beings blessed by his magic are immune to the PC because Surfer's blast proved ineffective against the all father. 🙂

Note: This is not my belief, and it is not my belief that a single ineffective attack is proof of immunity.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Now let's clarify why this is irrelevant.

1. Thor was blood-lusted with Warrior Madness...i.e. not the normal Thor.
2. THOR HAD THE POWER GEM
3. Infinity Watch, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, etc. etc. were holding back. They wanted to save Thor, not harm him.
4. one more time, THOR HAD THE POWER GEM

That is what is really common knowledge.

I've already posted a blood-lusted (as blood-lusted as he can be) surfer destroyed by Tyrant, as well as others who opposed Tyrant and sought his destruction at all costs.

Constrast this with your Thor example, where they were unwillingly fighting against their friend Thor and didn't wish to harm him.
Oh, and Thor was blood-lusted and had the POWER GEM.

1) Forum rules pre determines that each character is blood lusted. I.E., meaning anything Thor was capable of during the Blood and Thunder arc he is capable of in a standard forum match.

2) Only with his fight against Thanos. He was dominating a team composed of Adam Warlock w/soul gem, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Maxam, Drax w/power gem , Moondragon w/mind gem, Gamora, and Pip without it. Also, the PG aided him to a unknown degree.

3) Which means what? They didn't want him defeated? And if I recall correctly Surfer clearly stated that he would no longer hold back and was knocked out shortly afterwards.

4) During his fight with Thanos. All other feats were done under his own power.

They wished to defeat Thor. or by your logic, half the feats in the marvel universe should be thrown out because they wished not to kill their opponent? just because they didn't wish to kill him doesn't mean they didn't wish to incapacitate him.

Originally posted by Larceny
1) Forum rules pre determines that each character is blood lusted. I.E., meaning anything Thor was capable of during the Blood and Thunder arc he is capable of in a standard forum match.

2) Only with his fight against Thanos. He was dominating a team composed of Adam Warlock w/soul gem, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Maxam, Drax w/power gem , Moondragon w/mind gem, Gamora, and Pip without it. Also, the PG aided him to a unknown degree.

3) Which means what? They didn't want him defeated? And if I recall correctly Surfer clearly stated that he would no longer hold back and was knocked out shortly afterwards.

4) During his fight with Thanos. All other feats were done under his own power.

They wished to defeat Thor. or by your logic, half the feats in the marvel universe should be thrown out because they wished not to kill their opponent? just because they didn't wish to kill him doesn't mean they didn't wish to incapacitate him.

The only larceny going on here is that of truth.

1) They wish to defeat Thor, or, by your logic, the fight incorporates a Thor that is bloodlusted, which we use in the forums, and PIS and CIS-riddled (Moondragon says "If there is any hope of restraining Thor"😉 i.e., NON blood-lusted Infinity Watch characters. So the fight is IRRELEVANT as we see a Thor that you would use in forum debates perform unimpressive feats against Infinity Watch characters that we would NOT use in debates.

2) Now you are truly lying. I don't feel like posting all the scans but this is how it is:

Thor 468, blood-lusted Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill, who is non-bloodlusted. (Blood and Thunder part 1)

SS 86 (part 2), blood-lusted Thor vs. SS and Beta Ray Bill. Most of the fight Surfer was afraid of harming Thor ("In his frenzy, Thor is perfectly willing to kill me..while I am loath to unleash my might for fear of grievously injuring an ally"😉. Surfer said he would no longer hold back does not mean he is blood-lusted. Why? He has no intention of killing Thor.

Warlock chronicles 6, (part 3) Adam Warlock decides to help Thor

Warlock and Infinity watch 23 (part 4) blood-lusted Thor vs, SS and Adam Warlock, both not seeking to kill him.

Thor 469 (part 5). Thor fights drax. Infinity Watch watches.

Still watching

Moondragon wants to restrain Thor (i.e., not kill him, not blood-lusted)

She uses the mind gem on him but instead gives Valkyrie a physical form. The fight is now Thor AND Valkyrie vs. Gamora, Maxam, Drax, and Moondragon. The fight is NOT

He was dominating a team composed of Adam Warlock w/soul gem, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Maxam, Drax w/power gem , Moondragon w/mind gem, Gamora, and Pip without it.

as you claimed. Pip was present but did not fight at all.

Gamora fights Valkyrie while Thor takes on Maxam and Drax

Thor now has the power gem. Where was the additional team of Adam Warlock, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange?

All other feats after that battle of Thor and Valkyrie vs. Drax, Maxam, Moondragon, and Gamora were done with the Power Gem.

And, the power gem aiding Thor to an unknown degree? Just like how the power gem backs the Infinity Gauntlet with unlimited power, but to an "unknown" degree? Or just like how Tyrant is immune to asgardian magic, to an "unknown" degree?

FP Tyrant destroy the destroyer

The Destroyer never beat a Celestial, it was created to, but it failed, Tyrant is Celestial/Galactus level, he fought a well fed Galactus and held his own well, Destroyer gets destroyed

Originally posted by Tenebrous
The only larceny going on here is that of truth.

1) They wish to defeat Thor, or, by your logic, the fight incorporates a Thor that is bloodlusted, which we use in the forums, and PIS and CIS-riddled (Moondragon says "If there is any hope of restraining Thor"😉 i.e., NON blood-lusted Infinity Watch characters. So the fight is IRRELEVANT as we see a Thor that you would use in forum debates perform unimpressive feats against Infinity Watch characters that we would NOT use in debates.

2) Now you are truly lying. I don't feel like posting all the scans but this is how it is:

Thor 468, blood-lusted Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill, who is non-bloodlusted. (Blood and Thunder part 1)

SS 86 (part 2), blood-lusted Thor vs. SS and Beta Ray Bill. Most of the fight Surfer was afraid of harming Thor ("In his frenzy, Thor is perfectly willing to kill me..while I am loath to unleash my might for fear of grievously injuring an ally"😉. Surfer said he would no longer hold back does not mean he is blood-lusted. Why? He has no intention of killing Thor.

Warlock chronicles 6, (part 3) Adam Warlock decides to help Thor

Warlock and Infinity watch 23 (part 4) blood-lusted Thor vs, SS and Adam Warlock, both not seeking to kill him.

Thor 469 (part 5). Thor fights drax. Infinity Watch watches.

Still watching

Moondragon wants to restrain Thor (i.e., not kill him, not blood-lusted)

She uses the mind gem on him but instead gives Valkyrie a physical form. The fight is now Thor AND Valkyrie vs. Gamora, Maxam, Drax, and Moondragon. The fight is NOT

as you claimed. Pip was present but did not fight at all.

Gamora fights Valkyrie while Thor takes on Maxam and Drax

Thor now has the power gem. Where was the additional team of Adam Warlock, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange?

All other feats after that battle of Thor and Valkyrie vs. Drax, Maxam, Moondragon, and Gamora were done with the Power Gem.

And, the power gem aiding Thor to an unknown degree? Just like how the power gem backs the Infinity Gauntlet with unlimited power, but to an "unknown" degree? Or just like how Tyrant is immune to asgardian magic, to an "unknown" degree?

Impressive. Thought you were a lesser debater, guess not.

1) At the point when a character decides to no longer hold back, whether or not they're bloodlusted is irrelevant.

2) You're pretty much on point here.

3) I'll get back to this later. Gotta run right quick.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
The only larceny going on here is that of truth.

1) They wish to defeat Thor, or, by your logic, the fight incorporates a Thor that is bloodlusted, which we use in the forums, and PIS and CIS-riddled (Moondragon says "If there is any hope of restraining Thor"😉 i.e., NON blood-lusted Infinity Watch characters. So the fight is IRRELEVANT as we see a Thor that you would use in forum debates perform unimpressive feats against Infinity Watch characters that we would NOT use in debates.

2) Now you are truly lying. I don't feel like posting all the scans but this is how it is:

Thor 468, blood-lusted Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill, who is non-bloodlusted. (Blood and Thunder part 1)

SS 86 (part 2), blood-lusted Thor vs. SS and Beta Ray Bill. Most of the fight Surfer was afraid of harming Thor ("In his frenzy, Thor is perfectly willing to kill me..while I am loath to unleash my might for fear of grievously injuring an ally"😉. Surfer said he would no longer hold back does not mean he is blood-lusted. Why? He has no intention of killing Thor.

Warlock chronicles 6, (part 3) Adam Warlock decides to help Thor

Warlock and Infinity watch 23 (part 4) blood-lusted Thor vs, SS and Adam Warlock, both not seeking to kill him.

Thor 469 (part 5). Thor fights drax. Infinity Watch watches.

Still watching

Moondragon wants to restrain Thor (i.e., not kill him, not blood-lusted)

She uses the mind gem on him but instead gives Valkyrie a physical form. The fight is now Thor AND Valkyrie vs. Gamora, Maxam, Drax, and Moondragon. The fight is NOT

as you claimed. Pip was present but did not fight at all.

Gamora fights Valkyrie while Thor takes on Maxam and Drax

Thor now has the power gem. Where was the additional team of Adam Warlock, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange?

All other feats after that battle of Thor and Valkyrie vs. Drax, Maxam, Moondragon, and Gamora were done with the Power Gem.

And, the power gem aiding Thor to an unknown degree? Just like how the power gem backs the Infinity Gauntlet with unlimited power, but to an "unknown" degree? Or just like how Tyrant is immune to asgardian magic, to an "unknown" degree?

This is a really good post. I must absorb this information.