The only way I see Darkseid winning is by cutting of the Cains connection with Cyttorak.
Cyttorak is far past both Galactus and Darkseid, instead of moving or eating planets he just destroys the who dimension there located in. A being that can destroy dimensions, time, and space, without any effort at all can take Darkseid.
Darksied has never been shown to walk through dimensions like Cyttorak can.
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Its when he obtained the anti-life equation.
It gives Darkseid control over the minds of all beings that are concious and/or discerment.
Let us say Darkseid is stroger than Galactus and could kill him with one blast does that mean Darkseid could kill classic Juggernaut with the same blast?Where does Galactus get his power from?Where does Juggernaut get his power from?Galactus power comes from himself and Juggernaut comes from Cyttorak and based on marvel as long as Cyttorak is feeding Cain power he can't be killed.
Darkseid would hav to kill Cyttorak then just kill Cain Marko and who says Cyttorak isn't more powerful than Darkseid?Some characters are written poorely.They lose to people they should never lose too.The Juggernaut should of killed all of the x-men years ago based on what he can do.He could always have his force field up so his helmet wouldn't get knocked off.
Based on the screen name you may think i am a fan boy i am not.I am a fan of Juggernaut,Spawn,Gambit and numerous other heroes and villians.I chosed this screen name because i was the dumbest screen name i could think of at the time.But anyway i am not saying Trion Juggernaut would win because i don't know exactly how powerful Cyttorak is and therefore I can't say how powerful Trion Juggernaut is.
Originally posted by janus77
are you suggesting that Trion Juggernaut is the equal of Galactus?
yes, I think that trion juggernaut might pull some wins from galactus and could pull a majority and by the way he wasnt walking through the time stream, he was PUNCHING, the guy was just that strong that his unlimited strength was creating warps through dimension. I dont know anyone who could take a single punch like that.