Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul and Qui-Gon Jinn

Vader would crush these guys. Maul is overrated beyond belief. he was getting knocked around by Padawan Obi-wan when he got a little pissed. Vader has became the Superman of the vs forums, with people underestimating how powerful and skilled he really is.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
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So what? If djem so alone could beat makashi then why was anakin as of AOTC getting tooled by dooku? Because he lacks the skill.

No, the novel, movie, George Lucas, Sidious... make it clear, that Anakin is better then Dooku and Anakin didn't win just because of raw power, but because of the combination of speed, power, skill, technique... Now, Dooku is a better swordsman then Maul and maybe Maul wouldn't lose as badly as Dooku did(i personally believe he would) but he would lose nevertheless. Anakin is just so good.

Now to the point of this thread-

I think Anakin in proper state of mind could pull it off, like i said, his combat prowess are astonishing.

Qui Gon is ****ed, we all know this. But Maul would be a good match for Anakin.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
If I'm not mistakened Anakin was using Ataru in AotC. Besides I no that Anakin was extremely skilled, but I do believe Dooku>both Anakin and Obi Wan under normal circumstances.

Vader force rapes them both. A quick neck crush to Maul, and then from it's simply a matter of outsaber'ing Qui-Gon.

I also think that Vader's variant of Djem/So would be particularly devastating against Maul's saberstaff.

Actually in the vader vs maul comic they were evenly matched, until maul changed to jar kai when vader snapped mauls saber into two pieces, that was when vader was getting owned.

He might have to pin down qui gon before he can face maul, if not vader would get beaten seeing he is already having a hard time killing maul alone, so its likely he will kill quigon quickly then proceed to fight maul.

Like I said, a quick force rape to Maul's throat and then he can handle Qui-Gon.

And yeah I remember that part in the comic book..but realistically speaking, Vader hammering away on one side of Maul's double saber would make things difficult for Maul. he doesn't have the leverage needed to keep Vader from simply forcing his way through his defenses.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Like I said, a quick force rape to Maul's throat and then he can handle Qui-Gon.

And yeah I remember that part in the comic book..but realistically speaking, Vader hammering away on one side of Maul's double saber would make things difficult for Maul. he doesn't have the leverage needed to keep Vader from simply forcing his way through his defenses.

You are talking about OT Vader right?
Then why didn't he quick Force rape him in the comic, if he can do it easily as you say.
And i don't think, Vader can hammer away one side of Mauls lightsaber easily as you say, he has to set it up, to do it.

Now if you were talking about ROTS Vader, i would agree with you(except for the choking part), but OT Vader doesn't pwn Maul like you are implying, he wins, but far from easy.

ROTS Vader isn't all powerful in the force, he's just very skilled with a lightsaber. He couldn't overpower Kenobi with his force push and Dooku' force mastery dwarfs Anakin's as of ROTS.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
You are talking about OT Vader right?
Then why didn't he quick Force rape him in the comic, if he can do it easily as you say.
And i don't think, Vader can hammer away one side of Mauls lightsaber easily as you say, he has to set it up, to do it.

Now if you were talking about ROTS Vader, i would agree with you(except for the choking part), but OT Vader doesn't pwn Maul like you are implying, he wins, but far from easy.

He didn't do it to him in the comic because its not canon and if he did the comic would be way too short. PIS, essentially. And he doesn' t need to "hammer away", Vaders regular odl strikes would be hard to block with a saberstaff.

Yea even Anakin's pretty strong considering what he did to Assaj in CW series. That's RAW power not force mastery.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He didn't do it to him in the comic because its not canon and if he did the comic would be way too short. PIS, essentially. And he doesn' t need to "hammer away", Vaders regular odl strikes would be hard to block with a saberstaff.

It is cannon and that's a poor argument(no offense, i don't mean to insult, but that's just ridiculous, i could easily say that Dooku lost to Anakin, only because GL wrote so, to get the movie going forward), because in-universe, Vader couldn't defeat Maul quickly.

If this is OT Vader he takes it. But I think this is Mustafar Vader then he should lose.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
If this is OT Vader he takes it. But I think this is Mustafar Vader then he should lose.

Oh will in that case Maul is near Anakin's level in terms of lightsaber combat if not higher and Jinn's no pushover but here he won't last long against Anakin by himself.

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