RE the board... Doom stole the Silver Surfur's powers at one point way back in the 60's. That was with prepped tech, but I was just making a point.
Doom as a magician: He's actually quite good. There's a Doom/Strange grapic novel wherin Doom is one of the magicians summoned to the temple of the Vishanti in Thailand to compete to see who shal be oficcially the new Sorcerer Supreme. Strange won the tourney, of course, but Doom was at least seeeded in it. He's world class. Strange has to grant a boon to the finalists, and so they team up to go rescue Doom's mother.
Re the Ovoid Mind Swap: This requires no prep or tech, and he's used it as a last moment desperation move more than once.
Thor's Hammer came crashing down from earth and Nasa or somebody was investigating it.
Then Doom and his Doombots broke in the FF tried to stop him, but failed.
It happend in FF #536
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=64673
All i was saying the reason theyre made to fight eachother. Juggs is powered by magic and Doom is very strong magiclly. Plus i wonder how powerful Dooms armor form is. I wouldn't doubt near Ironman level at the least. Doom is also a master of science. with the combonation of strength science and magic it could be a great fight.
the more i think about it, thats dooms ONLY way to beat juggernaut. his science MIGHT work... once. like i said, juggernaut could always default to a personal impenatrable force field.
his magics probably arent powerful enough to defeat juggernauts (stranges were not, twice...).
without a significant amount of prep, i dont see doom doing anything to juggernaut that hasnt already been tried.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Dr. Doom would end up with the ruby, the power, and a brand new planet to rule.
Dr. Doom with all his intelligence having all the power of Juggernaut. If that happened he would truly be unstoppable in more ways than one. No one would beat him including the Fantastic 4.