Originally posted by carver9
Not being biased at all. The rules have changed. We use each character at their best. That's why I am saying what I am saying. If we use Spidey at his best, Grundy isn't touching him.It has nothing to do with me being bias. I would give Slade the majority over Spidey.
also you werent using grundy at his best at all, u were trying to pretend he be to down to thunder clap which is clearly not at grundy best.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
when did the rules change, what are you talking about?also you werent using grundy at his best at all, u were trying to pretend he be to down to thunder clap which is clearly not at grundy best.
Look through the Hulk vs Superman thread...there is a copy of the new rules.
I never said Spidey would drop Jim immediately, I said time will prevail.
I can't remember Grundy ever using a thunderclap more than once during combat.
Originally posted by carver9
Look through the Hulk vs Superman thread...there is a copy of the new rules.I never said Spidey would drop Jim immediately, I said time will prevail.
I can't remember Grundy ever using a thunderclap more than once during combat.
Based off ur logic spidy would be incapable of putting Grundy down.
Why would he need to use it more then a single time?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Those arnt new. And they dont say what ur suggesting at all. They are talking about character fighting within there personality but also utilizing all of there abilities based of knowledge of the threat. That does not translate into only using there very best showings. We still very much base there level of there majority and consistent showings. Mods have said as much.Based off ur logic spidy would be incapable of putting Grundy down.
Why would he need to use it more then a single time?
Bada stated that the character fight to the best of their abilities since there aren't any people around to prevent them from holding back.
Originally posted by carver9
Bada stated that the character fight to the best of their abilities since there aren't any people around to prevent them from holding back.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
They fight to there best, not only there highest showings this is not mutal exclusive. Use common sense, we use what there consistently shown at. We don't ignore all there showings and focus on the minority. This has been stated by the mods numerous times.
Read.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=371986&pagenumber=280
I'm having a hard time remembering what Spidey could build with the prep that would give him wins. He could make it a very long fight. And there's also Grundy's incarnations to consider. But for "average" Grundy (which is still well above, say, base Hulk), I can't see Pete taking him down. Pete's gadgets generally trick his power set out, not push him to new levels like an Iron Man. He'd need a plot device to really convince me.
Originally posted by carver9
Read.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=371986&pagenumber=280
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Doesn't Grundy's powerlevel depends on the day he is ressurrected?
Yes, if he's ressurrected on a day when Batman is in town he will get his ass kicked. In other appearances he steamrolls JLA. But that's not his average powerlevel either.
Pete cant possibly beat him in a fight but if CIS is off and with 12 hours of prep he might figure a way to win.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI'm not saying that Spider-man wins but he is a majority bullet and energy beam dodger. Plus he has spider sense that warns him before the attack and guides him out of the attack.
They fight to there best, not only there highest showings this is not mutal exclusive. Use common sense, we use what there consistently shown at. We don't ignore all there showings and focus on the minority. This has been stated by the mods numerous times.
So even your average Spidey should not get hit by Grundy. Very rarely does Spidey get hit by bricks. This would be an extreme minority.
I can definitely see Spidey wearing Solomon out if it is not one of the strongest forms. Even then spidey can wear him out if he has the stamina to keep at it for a day (not sure). I'm trying to not be bias as I really want Spidey to win this. But if he does then it would be a long ass fight (a long one). Plus Spidey has prep here, let's not forget.
Originally posted by h1a8Since 2 or 3 months now, he already has pretty good agility feats without it though, like avoiding several Soldiers shooting with mystical bullets and after that fighting Batroc along with fodder (Blade Soldiers) and Raptors without getting touched a single time.
Did he lose his spider sense recently?
Plus he is compansating the lack of SS with extra MA training by Shang Chi
Originally posted by ParmaniacDamn! I hate that. Well in theory that made him a little too powerful. Spider man learning MA probably would probably make a more amazing Spider man though. We'll see.
Since 2 or 3 months now, he already has pretty good agility feats without it though, like avoiding several Soldiers shooting with mystical bullets and after that fighting Batroc along with fodder (Blade Soldiers) and Raptors without getting touched a single time.Plus he is compansating the lack of SS with extra MA training by Shang Chi
Originally posted by carver9
He isn't touching Spiderman.
Grundy was extremely fast, enough to blitz Supes, but that may have been pre-crisis.
Originally posted by h1a8
Damn! I hate that. Well in theory that made him a little too powerful.
Yeah, we heard enough from you about that. "Untouchable". Lulz.