Originally posted by tdtd
What the last guy said, he maybe has a ridiculous mastery of the force but in terms of battle I'd give it to Yoda. We don't know how good Kyp was with a saber but very few were better than Yoda.
Originally posted by tdtd
How is manipulating a black hole helpful in a fight? Yoda has shown force mastery that is useful to a fight such as absorbtion and shooting lightning back. Kyp hasn't.
Originally posted by darthsith19
It isn't, unless there's a black hole nearby. As I already stated, It proves that he has Force mastery far greater than Yoda. Okay, so Yoda can catch lightning in his hands, big deal, Kyp could just stop it with his saber. Stopping Force Lightning with your hands isn't as great as manipulating a black hole.
Um ok, that's lovely.. We know he's superior to Yoda in the force when you list random feats that don't help him in a 1 on 1 duel with someone as powerful as Yoda. What i'm trying to say is none of his force powers are useful in a 1 on 1 battle with a powerful Jedi. Yoda would run circles around him and slice him into pieces.
Um ok, that's lovely.. We know he's superior to Yoda in the force when you list random feats that don't help him in a 1 on 1 duel with someone as powerful as Yoda. What i'm trying to say is none of his force powers are useful in a 1 on 1 battle with a powerful Jedi. Yoda would run circles around him and slice him into pieces.
Your terminology is off, darthsith. Force mastery is one's knowledge and proficiency regarding techniques in the Force. What you're talking about is raw power, which yes, Kyp has in excess. But look back on Anakin and Dooku in AotC: the former had all the raw power and potential in the world, while the latter had considerable power on his own, as well as staggering mastery of the Force. The Count also has eight times more experience than Anakin. Who won?
Now compare this to Yoda and Kyp. In this case, the powerhouse has actually recognized much of his power, unlike Anakin as of AotC, so the circumstances are different. But this time, you also have a Jedi Master who's been training in the ways of the Force - both dark and light (LoE, DR) - for nearly nine centuries. That's what, twenty-five, thirty times as much Force experience as Durron? Not to mention that he's a master swordsman to boot. Kyp Durron, while skilled, was defeated by four slayers in melee combat.
We've seen Yoda stop Force lightning at point-blank range, lightning strong enough to hurl a full-grown man several dozen meters out into the air. I doubt he'd be able to counter a full-on blast of Force energy from Kyp, whose vastly more powerful than Sidious, if you really think Kyp is going to choke Yoda to death - the same Yoda who has challenged and triumphed over Dark Jedi in the past, I don't know what to say. Durron may be able to pull off a win by trying to crush Yoda with his power, but I don't find that very likely.
Well put Faunus... But if Yoda has to fight all these opponents one after another, it may take a toll on his feats and may been low on power when he reaches Kyp... But Yoda does have 900 years of experience, wise and powerful, very masterful at relentlessely attacking his foes... So I'll have to say that Yoda goes all the way