Exar Kun vs Darth Revan, DE Sidious and Ulic Qel Droma

Started by IKC3 pages

Let's see, you:

Don't understand appeal to ridicule and apparently think it's the same as ad hominem.

Apparently don't remember your repeated statements that we'll "know more" about Revan/his power when KOTOR III comes out.

Lay out a blanket statement that we can't possibly judge his power with what we know now, despite the fact that we can and have in past threads with more reasoning and evidence than you've provided in your entire career trolling these forums.

And that has to do with you not being able to read how? This has to do with my post how? Oh I see, you respond to personal attacks with ones of your own. Oh yes, I see how I have been "trolling" this forum today. If you can't read, that's your problem don't expect to use personal attacks to make your argument.

Originally posted by tdtd
And that has to do with you not being able to read how? This has to do with my post how? Oh I see, you respond to personal attacks with ones of your own. Oh yes, I see how I have been "trolling" this forum today. If you can't read, that's your problem don't expect to use personal attacks to make your argument.

Btw I like how you put in personal opinions from months ago to construct your argument, especially when you can't interpret them properly.. Nce

Don't understand appeal to ridicule and apparently think it's the same as ad hominem.

Yes I understand the difference and just because you claim I don't doesn't make it true "Goebbels".

Originally posted by Wesker
A socking eleven year old who thinks his opinion changes reality is the anti-antedeluvian in principle.

Btw, why aren't you banned yet? Not only are you socking for the umpteenth time, but you're violating the TOS by being underaged.

It won't matter if he's ban. He'll just come back...

Numan put the words "Anti-Antediluvian" in your location spot.

I won't ask you to define appeal to ridicule for me since you can simply Google it but when you act like appeal to ridicule = personal attack (which is what you called it) then I'm going to call you on it.

Anyway, try responding with a cogent argument next time.

Originally posted by IKC
I won't ask you to define appeal to ridicule for me since you can simply Google it but when you act like appeal to ridicule = personal attack (which is what you called it) then I'm going to call you on it.

Anyway, try responding with a cogent argument next time.

Translation: I lack reading comprehension skills, I make ridiculous and innacurate interpretations of statements and/or opinions..

I'm glad you would think I'll google it, after all, most of your arguments are pure speculation.

Alright just did it.

Oh lord Numan just stay out.

Originally posted by tdtd
I'm glad you would think I'll google it, after all, most of your arguments are pure speculation.

You again accuse me of poor reading comprehension when it's quite obvious that your own needs a lot of work.

I won't ask you to define appeal to ridicule for me since you can simply Google it

Can. Not will.

English.

Originally posted by IKC
You again accuse me of poor reading comprehension when it's quite obvious that your own needs a lot of work.

Can. Not will.

English.

This is about you not me, what is this, "I know you are but what am I"? I accuse you of poor reading comprehension skills because thats what you show in your thread, so you respond to "No yours are poor". Brilliant..

Originally posted by tdtd
This is about you not me, what is this, "I know you are but what am I"? I accuse you of poor reading comprehension skills because thats what you show in your thread, so you respond to "No yours are poor". Brilliant..

And then I prove up by showing your reading comprehension is so deficient that you apparently thought my use of can meant will.

You prove up by dancing around and making the same accusation without proving up. Nevermind the nature of the evidence is against you, you're still going to say the same nonsense over and over.

QED.

Originally posted by IKC
And then I prove up by showing your reading comprehension is so deficient that you apparently thought my use of can meant will.

You prove up by dancing around and making the same accusation without proving up. Nevermind the nature of the evidence is against you, you're still going to say the same nonsense over and over.

QED.

The evidence is against me? Are you serious? Do you go into every argument thinking you're right and use your denial defense mechanism to back that up? I've proven how you lack reading comprehension skills whether or not your confused mind wants to believe it.. But please, humor us some more.

I'd be on the trio. Kun pwns Ulic, then is about to pwn Revan when Sidious creates a Force Storm, which kills both Revan and Kun. So the trio wins but Revan and Ulic die.

If this were a gauntlet, yeah, Kun would take down Ulic while Revan and Sidious looked on and laughed.

The trio take Kun down. Ulic and Revan keep Kun at bay with superiour lightsaber skills.

Ulic defeated Mandalore and tied a weaker Exar Kun. He shows no aptitude for sith alchemy within the comics however his skill with the lightsaber is adequately described.

Revan also defeated Mandalore, in what was described as an epic duel. Afterwards he proceeded to defeat Darth Malak, a sith lord empowered by the force power of an entire race. His skill in echani precognition is stated in game to be above those of the ancient echani seers.

DE Sidious cooks up a force storm. His storm is described as enough to destroy an entire star ship, a formidable feat. Now assuming Revan and Ulic are batting Kun around, Kun would not have enough concentration to build up a suitable resistance. Together, Revan and Ulic push back Kun, while DE Sidious conjures up a force storm that will most likely kill himself and his comrades but hey... maybe not.

Originally posted by thetruepower
Revan takes this alone. He is far greater then Kun's. And even though I may be a Revan fanboy, I base my decision on logic and am not just the typical fanboy. Consider the fact that Kun may have been the best in his era, but Revan was by far the best in his era. My reasoning behind this was that Kun was only just able to defeat his master, and IMO not through sheer skill (read what I have said in the Vodo versus Kun thread in the lit section) and wasn't even able to defeat Ulic Quel-Droma. I would still rate him as the best in his era but not that much above these people. Revan on the otherhand was leagues above everyone else in his era. Malak, Revan's former pupil and DLOTS at the time of the start of KOTOR, was the Darth Vader of the KOTOR era. Nobody could touch him. The masters feared him. He was basically unstoppable, yet a memory wiped Revan (in his amneisic state was a shell of his former self) with some companions (I'm guessing Bindo and Juhani, and maybe HK) was able to battle through a fortress of dark jedi and advanced star forge battle droids, and then on his own was able to defeat Malak with all of the power of the star forge (he was repeatedly able to rejuvinate himself back to life). That pretty much explains how he was leagues above everyone in his era, as he was able to defeat by far the greatest threat in the galaxy who nobody could touch quite, and not only was he able to defeat him once, but reapeatedly.

My god, I want you to point out one inequivocable fact in this jumble of garbage.

Darth Malak was the Darth Vader of his era? This is the centerpiece of your argument? Not only is this a senseless, idiotic comparison, you've effectively turned logical debating into a joke. Good job.

Kun's realatively peaceful era and crappy jedi order was completely inferior to Revan's era. Kun was only slightly the best in his era. Revan is leagues above everyone else in his era. There is nothing Kun can do with his sith magic that would help him against Revan. At the end of the day, they are hard to compare because they are both from completely different eras, neither of them have spectacular enough techniques that would grant them victory (not like Luke's lightning, Nihilus or Sion etc.) and there are hard factors to consider such as video gameplay and bad artwork and exaggerations involved in comics. However we know that Kun was only slightly the best in his era, while Revan was by far the greatest in his era. How could people not think that Revan would win?

Originally posted by thetruepower
Kun's realatively peaceful era and crappy jedi order was completely inferior to Revan's era. Kun was only slightly the best in his era. Revan is leagues above everyone else in his era. There is nothing Kun can do with his sith magic that would help him against Revan. At the end of the day, they are hard to compare because they are both from completely different eras, neither of them have spectacular enough techniques that would grant them victory (not like Luke's lightning, Nihilus or Sion etc.) and there are hard factors to consider such as video gameplay and bad artwork and exaggerations involved in comics. However we know that Kun was only slightly the best in his era, while Revan was by far the greatest in his era. How could people not think that Revan would win?

Revan the greatest in his era?!?

Kreia(to the exile):"You are the strongest I have ever trained..."

Theres nothing to contradict it, so this heart-warming quote stands.

Originally posted by thetruepower
Kun's realatively peaceful era and crappy jedi order was completely inferior to Revan's era. Kun was only slightly the best in his era. Revan is leagues above everyone else in his era. There is nothing Kun can do with his sith magic that would help him against Revan. At the end of the day, they are hard to compare because they are both from completely different eras, neither of them have spectacular enough techniques that would grant them victory (not like Luke's lightning, Nihilus or Sion etc.) and there are hard factors to consider such as video gameplay and bad artwork and exaggerations involved in comics. However we know that Kun was only slightly the best in his era, while Revan was by far the greatest in his era. How could people not think that Revan would win?

Really, and what here have you posted that was worth replying to?

Kun's realatively peaceful era and crappy jedi order was completely inferior to Revan's era.

Proof? Most of the Jedi Masters of Kun's era were killed off by Kun's forces, Ossus was destroyed. So what? The Jedi gained power from subtraction? WTF?

Kun was only slightly the best in his era. Revan is leagues above everyone else in his era.

Bullshit, offer proof. Revan and Malak's duel was "epic." Do you have an epic duel with someone whom you're leagues better than? Prove up.

There is nothing Kun can do with his sith magic that would help him against Revan.

You mean besides blast him with his amulet? Toss him around? Right, more bullshit.

At the end of the day, they are hard to compare because they are both from completely different eras, neither of them have spectacular enough techniques that would grant them victory (not like Luke's lightning, Nihilus or Sion etc.) and there are hard factors to consider such as video gameplay and bad artwork and exaggerations involved in comics.

Gameplay = N-Canon. Comic = C-Canon.

Difference? Yes. Too bad you don't quite understand it.

However we know that Kun was only slightly the best in his era, while Revan was by far the greatest in his era. How could people not think that Revan would win?

Because you have no proof of the above statement, and you have no understanding about their respective eras.

Revan can advantage himself in that fight. Malak, canonically, only used one extra life. Revan could and might have drained the other 7.