Originally posted by spideycarnage
thats PIS
thats like me saying...superman beat darkseid. so a galactus caliber villain like ego should have no problem with darksied. unless superman is stronger than Galactus wich is not true.
Exactly...Ego has been jobbed in the past but so has DS, perhaps even more, but we r just supposed to disregard it? Darkseid got beat down by Doomsday?
that doesnt make you essential to the universe sir being essential to the universe means if you die it dies, there have been elders who have died before and no body cares so no that theory of yours is not standing up on solid ground but your own assumption galactus is essential cause he is the balance between life and death, and the energy he consumes goes to keeping abraxas in check, death is essential because well no death then NO DEATH!, eternity is essential cause he's the whole darn universe no him no universe, inbetweener is essential cause then there would be no balance between order and chaos etc etc, grandmaster dies, or collector, it doesnt matter they wont effect the universe why?
cause for one the collectors wife a elder died, so did his daughter, and the collector has died at least twice to my recollection, cause korvac who would know what is and what is not essential killed him, and i dont know but he was already dead so death and grandmaster where playing for his soul anyway grandmaster died cause his power was the only thing that death could use to revive the collector, so no sir the elders are not essential cause more then one elder has died and the universe is still here all they are is servivors of the other universe thats it.
"Gammenon the Gatherer A Celestial that is sent out to find various Plant, Animal and Humanoid Specimens for Experimentation. He reports to Jemiah and often travels with Eson. An Alternate Reality version of him fought alongside Jemiah to battle Ego, The Living Planet. As Ego was about to kill the two they were saved at the last moment by Blink of the Exiles."
If Ego can kill 2 Celestials, Darkseid doesn't have a chance.
ok so I keep hearing that glads and thor beat ego theirfore darksied can do the same. Well wolverine has beat the hulk the hulk has beat thor - thor has beat Ego - and Ego has been shown more powerfull then Galactus therefore Wolverine can beat Galactus just wanted to let everyone know their is something that is called a plot device in comics and their is also PIS and CIS to think about too. Ego is an elder and a living planet, Darksied is tuff but nothing on the Darksied respect site leads me to believe Darksied would win this. pre-crisis Darksied might have a shot but not a current full powered one. Wasn't pre-crisis Darksied the one kirby was talking about being as powerfull as Galactus?
Originally posted by Juntai
Yet, Thor beat Ego, and Gladiator beat Ego by punching it's surface. I'm thinking either Galactus was severely weak or just plain jobbing. Darkseid can simply teleport it to another dimension and seal it there so it can't come back. Or erase it from existence. Galactus typically tries to use force to win encounters, Darkseid just deals with it.
but those times, it was ego-prime and weakened Ego....just a splinter of his powers. please, thats just as asinine as Whirly always bringing up that Thanos lost to Squirrel Girl.
And at full power Ego is capable of slaughtering celestials. Ego's ultimate form (not Ego himself, but his ultimate form i.e what he would be) killed thousands, yes thousands of Celestials before he was stopped.
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^this is ego prime...it evolved from a splinter off of ego..just a slither of it's powers- infinitesimal even.
Originally posted by GODSCRIBEDarkseid is also more powerful than the Celestials at full power. He's been shown as able to defeat Promethian Giants.
but those times, it was ego-prime and weakened Ego....just a splinter of his powers. please, thats just as asinine as Whirly always bringing up that Thanos lost to Squirrel Girl.And at full power Ego is capable of slaughtering celestials. Ego's ultimate form (not Ego himself, but his ultimate form i.e what he would be) killed thousands, yes thousands of Celestials before he was stopped.
http://www.capitalcomics.com/covers/00015.jpg
^this is ego prime...it evolved from a splinter off of ego..just a slither of it's powers- infinitesimal even.
And as JohnR said.
I read that issue and I didn't see anything to indicate that Ego would have beaten the Celestials. I had the impression that he was going to lose.
Originally posted by jasofiscThat's your folly. Darkseid avoided the Crisis by seperating himself and his planet from the normal DCU Continuum, Current Darkseid IS Pre Crisis Darkseid, and that's what he can do at full power.
ok so I keep hearing that glads and thor beat ego theirfore darksied can do the same. Well wolverine has beat the hulk the hulk has beat thor - thor has beat Ego - and Ego has been shown more powerfull then Galactus therefore Wolverine can beat Galactus just wanted to let everyone know their is something that is called a plot device in comics and their is also PIS and CIS to think about too. Ego is an elder and a living planet, Darksied is tuff but nothing on the Darksied respect site leads me to believe Darksied would win this. pre-crisis Darksied might have a shot but not a current full powered one. Wasn't pre-crisis Darksied the one kirby was talking about being as powerfull as Galactus?
Originally posted by Juntai
Darkseid is also more powerful than the Celestials at full power. He's been shown as able to defeat Promethian Giants.And as JohnR said.
Not very reassuring from someone having read the issue and not the bio.
lol..impression? super-ego literally slaughtered thousands of celestials.
Originally posted by Juntai
So you're changing the fight to an alternate story Super Ego now?
Nevermind that. At full power he is able to pose a threat (and even beat) multiple Celestials. He is Galactus level. If anything it is a draw- or Ego wins.
He can create beings that would collectively challenge Darkseid. He moves beyond the speed of light too. Darkseid isn't posing too much threat.
And still, Super-Ego is a reflection on EGO in his ultimate aspect (full power), which is also able to destroy thousands of Celestials. I'm afraid Darkseid cannot execute such a feat.
but those times, it was ego-prime and weakened Ego
"Gammenon the Gatherer A Celestial that is sent out to find various Plant, Animal and Humanoid Specimens for Experimentation. He reports to Jemiah and often travels with Eson. An Alternate Reality version of him fought alongside Jemiah to battle Ego, The Living Planet. As Ego was about to kill the two they were saved at the last moment by Blink of the Exiles."
That would be very impressive, if it wasn't an alternate timeline. Whole lot of things happen in different timelines; LT toys with Phoenix, Apocalypse owns America and Wolverine beats Lobo. It has no value whatsoever to this fight.
Originally posted by Tshern
Ego was weakened in his first appearance?That would be very impressive, if it wasn't an alternate timeline. Whole lot of things happen in different timelines; LT toys with Phoenix, Apocalypse owns America and Wolverine beats Lobo. It has no value whatsoever to this fight.
err, stop being cynical...they've met on several occassions..theyve met when it was just ego-prime as well, and also when it was weak. the time you're refering to, he obviously wasn't at full power =/
Darkseid can also create beings of godlike power with a wave of his hand.
The Anti Monitor absorbed the power of an entire Universe, and a single Omega Beam shot laid him out.
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Takion, a being who's greatest power is one that allows him to speak to and gain knowledge directly from The Source[You DO know what is right?], considers Darkseid and Highfather the two most powerful beings there is.
They are also known as the highest element of Good and Evil in the universe, are are the Balance of the Universe, and are so important to it, that it ceases to exist without them.
A single Guardian of the Universe crushed Galactus in JLA/Avengers, albiet a powerful one.... the entire group of them together went to Apocalypse to make a peace treaty with Darkseid, having been caught meddling in his business, and allowed him to keep a Green Lantern as a slave as a sign of the treaty. Then they wiped the day from their records so no one would ever find out they stooped so low.
Scott Free, the old Mister Miracle, and one of the most powerful New Gods had a weapon capable of destroying any life-form. He tried to shoot Darkseid with it, he laughed.
Darkseid had summoned the entire grouping of The Lords of Order and Chaos. He also says he's more powerful than they are, The Lords of Chaos seem to accept, the Lords of Order deny it. They start bickering, but then shut up when he tells them to. Interesting.
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