Does Doom really know what he's facing? If not, Hal will lay an immense curbstompage on him.
Neo is really, really, really overestimated. Has he ever shown superspeed to a high degree? Has he ever shown control over reality or time? How in HELL will he counter a giant green fist forming around him and pulling his head off? Hal would utterly dominate Neo.
I don't know anything about Pitt, really. Hal gets to 7 or 8, pretty easily. (Nate stops him without much effort, but he WILL get that far)
Originally posted by badabing
Stops at Bats or Doom with prep. The way Bats is written, Bats w/prep>JLA.
As long as he can prep to defeat them when they suspect nothing, yes, he is. However, that's blown out of proportion a lot here. If he's out to get Batman, Hal will kill him, plain and simple. Same goes to Doom, except that Doom doesn't even know Green Lantern's powerset. Hal stops time and kill sboth at his leisure. Then gets his ass stomped by X Man.
Is this the Hal Jordan "I'm going to use my ring to make a giant green baseball glove " Lantern or Lantern written to the fullest of his abilities? Two hours of prep is not much time for Batman to prepare for a Green Lantern. Can Vader crush his heart from a distance? If it's the "baseball glove lantern" then I would say it stops at Vader. If it's the latter then Doom. Doom with a weeks prep could take out just about anyone.
This is Hal written to his fullest. And yes, Darth Vader can Force-choke someone from a distance. He gets underestimated a lot in the vs battles because a lot of guys here aren't nearly as knowledgeable about SW as their favorite comic guy (or girl).
"Neo is really, really, really overestimated. Has he ever shown superspeed to a high degree? Has he ever shown control over reality or time? How in HELL will he counter a giant green fist forming around him and pulling his head off? Hal would utterly dominate Neo."
On a regular basis, Gls move faster than Neo was shown to move in the Matrix. However, I'm sure he could dodge a GIANT fist with relative ease.
I tried to come up with a gauntlett that had various types included. Omega level mutants, psionics, magical power, pure strength, cosmic, etc. I agree with most of you guys though, he gets stopped by nate. One could make a case for getting all they way to Desak though.
Wow. Extreme lack of respect for Hal here. If anyone thinks Bats or Doom could seriously take him out without some massive PIS, even with prep, then they're crazy. And I'm not sure why Vader is before both of them either. A good Jedi is beyond either of them, even by cautious standards.
Magneto's his first test, but Hal has more raw power. I don't know Nate's upper limits, but I honestly think Hal has a good chance of making it to Desak.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wow. Extreme lack of respect for Hal here. If anyone thinks Bats or Doom could seriously take him out without some massive PIS, even with prep, then they're crazy. And I'm not sure why Vader is before both of them either. A good Jedi is beyond either of them, even by cautious standards.Magneto's his first test, but Hal has more raw power. I don't know Nate's upper limits, but I honestly think Hal has a good chance of making it to Desak.
True, I should've placed Vader about 4th, but almost nobody on this forum realizes his true power. He's always dissed when I seew him used in a thread.
Originally posted by Crease
True, I should've placed Vader about 4th, but almost nobody on this forum realizes his true power. He's always dissed when I seew him used in a thread.
People here either love or hate SW. And they'll argue like Jedi are nigh-herald level or street-level. Rarely is there an in-between, and that's the primary reason SW stuff is generally not allowed in this forum (though it's fine in this thread).
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wow. Extreme lack of respect for Hal here. If anyone thinks Bats or Doom could seriously take him out without some massive PIS, even with prep, then they're crazy. And I'm not sure why Vader is before both of them either. A good Jedi is beyond either of them, even by cautious standards.Magneto's his first test, but Hal has more raw power. I don't know Nate's upper limits, but I honestly think Hal has a good chance of making it to Desak.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wow. Extreme lack of respect for Hal here. If anyone thinks Bats or Doom could seriously take him out without some massive PIS, even with prep, then they're crazy. And I'm not sure why Vader is before both of them either. A good Jedi is beyond either of them, even by cautious standards.Magneto's his first test, but Hal has more raw power. I don't know Nate's upper limits, but I honestly think Hal has a good chance of making it to Desak.
Agreed.
Hal is arguably the 'best' GL out there, yet people are saying that Darth, Bats and Doom could take him out.
I also think Hal has a good chance getting to Desak (what he does there though is another story).