Originally posted by -K-M-Meh... combat speed feats, Spider-Man still has the better feats, pound for pound.
He was in vol.3 during the demonic influence, he was speed blitzing Demi-goblin, Hobgoblin and even Spider-Man made a direct comment about his speed, and another instant Spider-Man made a comment he barely could keep up with him while MK was gliding.
Parker gives out lots of credit to those around him... nothing new.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Meh... combat speed feats, Spider-Man still has the better feats, pound for pound.Parker gives out lots of credit to those around him... nothing new.
If your talking about in total he has more, as vol.3 MK demonic form wasn't around as long as Spider-Man, so of course he has more. Does that discredit the fact he has shown to be Spider-Man level when he got the upgrade? No. MK had the combat speed feats and traveling feats that Spider-Man made comment too. He even was blizing people who were giving Spider-Man hell in the same issue 😬
So we shall discredit them? The logic in this thread is incredible
Originally posted by -K-M-I realize Spider-Man has more... no shit.
If your talking about in total he has more, as vol.3 MK demonic form wasn't around as long as Spider-Man, so of course he has more. Does that discredit the fact he has shown to be Spider-Man level when he got the upgrade? No. MK had the combat speed feats and traveling feats that Spider-Man made comment too. He even was blizing people who were giving Spider-Man hell in the same issue 😬So we shall discredit them? The logic in this thread is incredible
But Spider-Man also has better feats and a better average... IMO.
And I don't really see why you're attacking my logic because other people are giving Wade the win.
Moon Knight's fast, but to say he's Spider-Man fast is disingenuous.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
I realize Spider-Man has more... no shit.But Spider-Man also has better feats and a better average... IMO.
And I don't really see why you're attacking my logic because other people are giving Wade the win.
Moon Knight's fast, but to say he's Spider-Man fast is disingenuous.
Except that was shown and stated when he got his upgrade, that's like saying ignore the event recently with Wild Child who just got upgraded speedblitized Wolverine and ignore the comment where Wolverine said he was faster. Wolverine has better speed feats, and more so shall we discredit that as well 😬
Originally posted by -K-M-What was the comment made anyhow?
Except that was shown and stated when he got his upgrade, that's like saying ignore the event recently with Wild Child who just got upgraded speedblitized Wolverine and ignore the comment where Wolverine said he was faster. Wolverine has better speed feats, and more so shall we discredit that as well 😬
And when it boils down to it, I'll take feats over dialogue... dialogue means its comparable, but I'm not going to take the opinion of one author over the character's average.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
What was the comment made anyhow?And when it boils down to it, I'll take feats over dialogue... dialogue means its comparable, but I'm not going to take the opinion of one author over the character's average.
To which example?
Yeah and he had both that's the point, and it even was said with each issue he was even getting stronger and faster as noted thanks to the demonic nature manipulating his body. When he met with Spider-Man he wasn't even fully gone in his transformation 😬
Also did you read the issues in question?
Originally posted by -K-M-The MK one. I've read the Wild Child bit.
To which example?
Originally posted by -K-M-So, again, we're stuck at comparable... I still wouldn't say, he's definitely and obviously Spider-Man level without feats. Especially because it could be a low point for Parker... and Parker often gives out undue credit to those around him. Often...
Yeah and he had both that's the point, and it even was said with each issue he was even getting stronger and faster as noted thanks to the demonic nature manipulating his body. When he met with Spider-Man he wasn't even fully gone in his transformation 😬
Wolverine once commented that if Gorgon took out Elektra, he didn't have a chance. But I'm not going to believe that Elektra > Wolverine.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
The MK one. I've read the Wild Child bit.So, again, we're stuck at comparable... I still wouldn't say, he's definitely and obviously Spider-Man level without feats. Especially because it could be a low point for Parker... and Parker often gives out undue credit to those around him. Often...
Wolverine once commented that if Gorgon took out Elektra, he didn't have a chance. But I'm not going to believe that Elektra > Wolverine.
There's a reason I made the MK respect thread
Once again he HAD THE FEATS, once again did you read the issues in question? Nice, so now it's a low point for Spider-Man and merely just giving credit when it's not warranted? Like I said earlier I love the logic in this thread
Originally posted by -K-M-Ugh. Fine, K, if you're just going to make personal attacks, twist my words and be entirely nonobjective and unhelpful when I'm trying to have a civil conversation, you can sod off.
There's a reason I made the MK respect threadOnce again he HAD THE FEATS, once again did you read the issues in question? Nice, so now it's a low point for Spider-Man and merely just giving credit when it's not warranted? Like I said earlier I love the logic in this thread
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Ugh. Fine, K, if you're just going to make personal attacks, twist my words and be entirely nonobjective and unhelpful when I'm trying to have a civil conversation, you can sod off.
I am sorry I'm abit testy now, but the logic in this thread has already got me aggitated.
Here's one statement:
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man094-03.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man094-04.jpg
Originally posted by Faceman
You know I don't think I've seen one scan in this thread. It's hard to prove points without any scans on hand to back up your word.
Which part you want me to show scans for? I have a whole respect thread ready
Originally posted by -K-M-
I am sorry I'm abit testy now, but the logic in this thread has already got me aggitated.Here's one statement:
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man094-03.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man094-04.jpgWhich part you want me to show scans for? I have a whole respect thread ready
I don't know, I'm not going to participate in this debate , but I would like to see some evidence from those of you that are making valid points...
Back to the bit where someone said MK wouldnt knock out DP.
Adamantium-really really strong metal, correct?
You could knock out a normal person or even kill them by punching then really hard in their temple( the soft bit on the side of their forehead ).
DP has alot more power than an average human ofcourse, but I dont think he has that much more to withstand being knocked out when getting hit in the temple with an ADAMANTIUM staff, keeping in mind a punch could knock someone out there, look at the power difference between these 2 things.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I don't think MK is even peak human. I know he gets more powerful under a full moon. But how is he on Spidey's level?
Really? 😬 not even peak human? Vol.3 he got a further upgrade and was Spider-Man level. So I suggest you look at the respect thread
Moon Knight
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Strength
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Moon Knight #10 [Vol.1]
Moon Knight kicks down a brick wall while in water
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/LMoonKnight10-06.jpg
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Moon Knight #1 [Vol.2]
Now with his upgrade MK gets super strength with the moon, a full moon he can press 2 tons. Here he escapes being bound and most impressive punches a hole through a shield by accident. Also mere punches send warriors up 20 ft.
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2001-33.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2001-34.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2001-35.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.2]
Here Moon Knight shows his awesome strength merely just shoving a guy sends him flying back 20 feet. He even comments 200 pounds feels like an ounce to him
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-03.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-04.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-05.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.2]
Here Moon Knight bends metal bars like they were nothing
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-17.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.2]
Moon Knight tosses a jaguar a good 40 foot, and then picks up a desk and throws it through a wall
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-18.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-19.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.2]
Moon Knight accidentally snaps a mans arm not knowing his strength
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-21.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.2]
Moon Knight showing his full strength MK rips a steel door right off of the wall and tosses it
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/moonknightvol2002-22.jpg
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Moon Knight #6 [Vol.2]
Here Moon Knight under the full moon breaks free of his metal chains with ease
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/fistofkonshumoonknight006-17.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/fistofkonshumoonknight006-18.jpg
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Moon Knight #2 [Vol.3]
Moon knight uses a weight bar as a bo-staff smacking up a bunch of meatheads
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/marcspectormoonknight_v3_2_21.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/marcspectormoonknight_v3_2_22.jpg
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Moon Knight #20 [Vol.3]
With his hook pulls over a car in a junkyard crushing a robot
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/ms_-_moon_knight_v3_020_p07.jpg
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Moon Knight #13 [Vol.5]
Moon Knight shows his strength where he is still recovering from his leg injuries even struggling to walk downstairs in MK #7 still does all those leg presses and with max weight for the machine
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/mk7-13.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/Moon_Knight_009_003.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/Moon_Knight_009_004.jpg
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Web of Spider-Man #93 [Vol.1]
Moon Knight punched a hole through a roof of a truck even impressing Hobgoblin
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man093-20.jpg
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Web of Spider-Man #94 [Vol.1]
Moon Knight braces the doorframe so Spider-Man can escape from the collapsing building
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WebofSpider-Man094-23.jpg
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Werewolf by Night #33 [Vol.1]
Moon Knight kicks metal bars and bends them, and these bars were holding back the Werewolf of the Night
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/WerewolfByNight033-16.jpg
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West Coast Avengers #33 [Vol.1]
Moon Knight casually throws off multiple people off of him sending them back quite a distance
1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/wca033-16.jpg
