Greenlantern vs. Invisible Woman and Jean Grey

Started by Juntai4 pages

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If GLs can eventually be overcome by telepathy as recent events appear to show, then Jean Grey and IW win over any single standard (by that i mean not powered up beyond normal GL level Ion, Parallax etc) lantern.
In the newest GL series, Hal went to Hector Hammond, and had to turn off the block all telepathy aspect of his ring to let Hector enter his mind..

Kinda contradicting. I dunno.

Originally posted by Wally West
Despero isn't exactly a run of the mill telepath though, hes at least more powerful with telepathy than Martian Manhunter and Aquaman combined, and it appears Hal was resisting his attacks until Batman caught him with that punch. Is Jean as good a telepath as Despero?

Didn't John Stewart block out telepathy from Fernus once?

I wouldn't say they are immune to it, but they can put up enough resistance to knock Jean out before she overcomes them.

Jeans a telekinetic as well so she could protect herself quite easily. It appears from that scene that fending off tp takes all of a GLs concentration and when that is lost, as we saw here it all goes downhill. Considering Jean isnt alone in this versus match, a Gl isnt going to have the luxury of fighting off such an attack undisturbed.

Isn't a Greenlantern's construct always physically connected to his ring but Invisible Woman can create shields and constructs that are not physically connected to her as well as Jean with her telekinesis? So can't Jean and Sue just create a super strong force field and hide in it while attacking GL at the same time?

Actually, Despero wasnt trying to get into Hals head. Hal was trying to release Despero's hold from the other members of the JLA. Depero didnt even attemp it apparently. When Bats came out and hit him, thats when Despero took advantage and mind controlled him. Secondly, Despero is magically enhanced so his telepathy isnt your average uber telepathy like Jean, J'onn, etc.

In this fight, Lantern is aware of his enemies being only 2. Unlike the Despero fight, he doesnt have to rely on teammates taking care of the other opponent(s). Lantern wins.

Despero's abilties are from the Flame of Py'tar, magical in nature, so his TP isn't just standard TP. GL has a magic problem as seen in Blue Beetle #1. Plus being able to control living beings is part of his powerset.

Originally posted by ixie
Isn't a Greenlantern's construct always physically connected to his ring but Invisible Woman can create shields and constructs that are not physically connected to her as well as Jean with her telekinesis? So can't Jean and Sue just create a super strong force field and hide in it while attacking GL at the same time?

Nope, that's completely up to the Green Lantern whether or not it's connected to the ring. Check the GL respect thread and you'll see what I mean. And GL can also create a forcefield just as strong, if not stronger.

Jean(excluding Phoenix) and Sue are great but GLs are a couple leagues above.

GL wins.

Which GL's lose? which gls win?

Originally posted by ixie
Which GL's lose? which gls win?

Only john loses...........

John always loses. He's kinda like the Rhino.

What if it's Jean with her NXM power levels and the GL threatened Sue's family?

If he faced a bloodlusted Sue, then his head asplode.

What if we stack the odds in favor of the girls? Can GL win?!?!?

No need to stack the odds in favor of the girls...They both have have forcefields to defend against any energy or construct GL can throw at them. They also both possess invisible attacks, so a GL won't see their attacks coming and therefore won't be able to defend against them. Superherovandal stated Gls are way out of the girls league. Their easily out of Jeans league, but if Sue could fly...

Girls win 8/10

Doesn't Sue do things with her shields that can make her simulate flying. Or create slides like Iceman. But sometimes the just ride them like a magic carpet. Technically she should be able to do what GL's do to fly. But somehow she doesn't

Originally posted by Crease
No need to stack the odds in favor of the girls...They both have have forcefields to defend against any energy or construct GL can throw at them. They also both possess invisible attacks, so a GL won't see their attacks coming and therefore won't be able to defend against them. Superherovandal stated Gls are way out of the girls league. Their easily out of Jeans league, but if Sue could fly...

Girls win 8/10

Any GL could still make it to where they could see anything invisible. People forget that those rings are some of the ultimate plot devices.

Originally posted by coosie
Doesn't Sue do things with her shields that can make her simulate flying. Or create slides like Iceman. But sometimes the just ride them like a magic carpet. Technically she should be able to do what GL's do to fly. But somehow she doesn't

Her powers don't work like a GL. They can actually fly, and do pretty much whatever else they want with it. I say again, check the GL respect thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t366379.html

Now, can y'all honestly tell me that those two can match up against something like that?

Originally posted by thesilverspider
Jean is a non-factor in this fight with GL's immunity to her powers and GL can do everything IW can do but better.

They are not immune to TP. They can however put a TP-resistant shield to protect them. Question is, which would be faster, Jean attacking Kyle with TP or Kyle being able to erect a shield.

That or knowing Sue's ability to project his Invisible forcefields even inside the body of someone being able to do things like blind people or crush their lungs instantly.

I just learned from another thread that Omega Jean's level of telekinesis is class 1000. That's without the phoenix. Does this change anything?

The girls win.