But anything that was true in the movies is ALSO true in the EU is the point, DN, according to the EU's own published canon rules.
Personally, I don't think the answer is for EU to have a big retcon clear up. It has been tried before and it is just a mess.
I reckon the EU should drop having any form of canon at all. Each book, or series, should be seen as a different mirror of the SW universe, each containing its author's take on how they think things should be at a certain time and place in the mythology, and that shouldn't be binding on any other author or series at all, unless that author or series wishes it (e.g. for a sequel).
That is virtually how it is anyway, and it would sidestep all these continuity issues. Just say that there IS no continuity, and then enjoy the book.
If you do that...
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DE could be set in a Star Wars universe where the final destruction of the Sith happened in a different way.
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NJO would not be a 'sequel storyline', it would simply be a series of books examing the concept of Luke becoming a superbeing and gaining new understanding in the background of a mass alien invasion.
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All those old Sith comics could be a look at a past where Sith had superpowers too.
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KOTOR would examine a scenario in the past where the Jedi were defunct, the Sith used Darth titles and progress depended on the choices of a couple of amnesiacs, one of which is worried about ther 'True' Sith.
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All of these would not be binding on anything or anyone. It would just be an area the relevant authors wanted to explore, their own interpretation of a Star Wars concept. Just stories involving force powers and Jedi, baed upon the basic Star Wars concepts. After all, how many different King Arthur stories have there been? They use the same names and the same places but they are hardly the same thing.
There really is no value in trying to tie them all into a larger continuity, I feel.
(and as an added bonus, it would cut down these damn 'Versus' issues)
Good point Ush, I agree. EU is a big mess. Thats a pretty good idea, though I'm sure many EU fans would hate that idea.
But it would take FOREVER to sift through the near unlimited amount of EU and come up with what is N-canon and what is canon. It would take forever and would be a big mess cause other people would disagree with all the choices.
I think your idea would work perfectly though, completely untie all EU from everything, and make it so there is no true continuity to the EU SW.
Everything is just viewed on its own.
Infinities, though., is normally them trying to do stuff that is actively impossible and/or silly in a storyline sense- like having Vader vs. Maul, or exploring things that are very consciously 'What if?' scenarios. the name itself suggests parallel universes.
To say EU has no continuity at all is a bit different to that. Infinities is trying to be distinct from a continuity; this is shooting down the idea of there being one (or any value to one) in the first place.
Yeah, I get the difference, but if you throw out continuity, just about everything becomes what is now considered infinities. Like was said earlier, whole new vistas open for authors. What if becomes a very viable route for inspirations.
The what if of almost omnipotent jedi and sith has already been explored, but what if jedi and sith were more limited like what we've seen in the movies? What kind of EU would that make? What if Luke and Leia hadn't been siblings (ala Splinter of the Mind's Eye)? What great horizons could be explored if everything didn't have to be approved by Lucasfilm.
I don't see why Lucasfilm wouldn't have to approve it.
Infinities is still something that ius self-consciously oddball as a series, though. I think it blurs the idea to make an analogy by saying everything would be Infinities; people might actually think you meant it would all be Vader vs. Maul style stuff.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I don't see why Lucasfilm wouldn't have to approve it.Infinities is still something that ius self-consciously oddball as a series, though. I think it blurs the idea to make an analogy by saying everything would be Infinities; people might actually think you meant it would all be Vader vs. Maul style stuff.
I was thinking more along the lines of the what-if type stuff.
They've actually done it a bit. A New Hope: Infinities explored what if Luke hadn't destroyed the death star. The Empire Strikes Back: Infinities explored what if Luke had died on Hoth. Return of the Jedi: Infinities explored what if they couldn't save Han at Jabba's Palace.
There are plenty more what-if's to be explored.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
It still makes no difference. His descendent's killing Palpatine still means he didn't do it himself, which means he didn't bring balance to the force, which means that DE shouldn't be in the internal EU canon.
the way i see it, anakin IS the Chosen One because that one act of turning on old palps had repurcussions greater than the moment. If he hadn't the rebels would be wiped out - as it is, the rebels won mostly coz of it, beat the vong coz of it (im with the view that the Empire would seriously have been defeated by the vong) and now there is a time of <relative> peace.