Juggernaut (Classic) vs Hercules, Wonderman, Namor, Ironman, Samson

Started by CaptainStoic3 pages
CaptainStoic Avenger

Ok this is what Avengers# 25 says:
Hercules: our companions have all fallen Thor! Only we twain do still stand!
Thor: Aye Hercules! Then fight all the harder, my friend...
Hercules: ... IN THE NAME OF MIDGARD... AND OF THE MIGHTY AVENGERS!
Dialog: And fight they do.. in a display of skill and strength that rivals anything seen in earths history. "And if they were up against one Exemplar, or two.... then they would surely prevail. Even against three or four".... their centuries of experience might still win the day. But all seven? Against all seven alas...

juggernaut66666 Legendary

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ok this is what Avengers# 25 says:
Hercules: our companions have all fallen Thor! Only we twain do still stand!
Thor: Aye Hercules! Then fight all the harder, my friend...
Hercules: ... IN THE NAME OF MIDGARD... AND OF THE MIGHTY AVENGERS!
Dialog: And fight they do.. in a display of skill and strength that rivals anything seen in earths history. "And if they were up against one Exemplar, or two.... then they would surely prevail. Even against three or four".... their centuries of experience might still win the day. But all seven? Against all seven alas...

name the page because i can't find it anywhere no need i have found it

CaptainStoic Avenger

That would be page number 35... and Souljaboy... logic would dictate that these guys would put Juggernauts butt in the Vault. Anyways it's been fun, but I have to go now.

juggernaut66666 Legendary

but it says "if they" so not one by one it says two pft hem could take out four

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Captainstoic you really dont know what your talking about do you?

Ok lets use comic logic, you may be able to understand this. Juggernaut is one of the 8 exemplars, right. Now, Thor has never managed to defeat Juggernaut only outsmart him, in the other fights he was violated. Now if Juggernauts one of the 8 exemplars and Thor cant even manage to damage Juggernaut, how do you figure Thors stronger than the other exemplars?


You gotta look at their powers... They all had a specific powerset that would make them very difficult to beat using the same powers. For example, I wouldn't expect a telepath to be able to handle Bedlam all that well but I wouldn't be surprised if Spidey could knock him out in a physical fight. Juggernaut was like the avatar of physical power so it'd be difficult to beat him with physical power but easy with other means.

juggernaut66666 Legendary

if they are usin tech and logic they can win but if they take a h2h fight they will lose

CaptainStoic Avenger

Juggernaut is going to jail. Are you trying to tell me that immortal Hercules, Wonderman, Ironman, Namor, and Dr. Samson couldn't pick up the Juggernaut and cart him off to jail?

xtrubeastxcs The Sentry

Iron man could easily just make a device that cuts off juggernauts link with Cykorak, and its over.

olympian Senior Member

"what are you talking about? thanos and most of the others are above sky father"

Thanos is not above skyfather level. I dont even put him equal to Odin who he fought. Hes below, a Death God level being.

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"i don't see any states that thor or hercules can beat them the only thing i see that the avengers got captured and maybe beaten up a lil bit"

I do:

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3938/avengersexemplars59um.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9927/avengersexemplars83cx.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9301/avengersexemplars94yk.jpg

Pretty clear.

soujaboy09 Restricted

And who saved there @ss? The one sitting in the jail cell thats who. Nah just playing.

Thats just makes Juggernaut seem all the stronger, because he took them all down without any help.

juggernaut66666 Legendary

Originally posted by soujaboy09
And who saved there @ss? The one sitting in the jail cell thats who. Nah just playing.

Thats just makes Juggernaut seem all the stronger, because he took them all down without any help.


thats true

juggernaut66666 Legendary

marvel handbook 2005 stats
juggernaut
strenght:7/7 above class100
durability:7/7 virtually indestructable

doc samson
strenght:5/7 class 25-75
durability:5/7 bulletproof

wonderman
strenght6/7 class75-100
durability6/7 superhuman

ironman
strenght6/7 class75-100
durability6/7 superhuman

namor
strenght:6/7 class 75-100
durability6/7 superhuman

hercules(immortal)
strenght7/7 above class100
durability6/7superhuman

soujaboy09 Restricted

I dont like handbooks much, but can you get sime scans of the pages?

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

The team does NOT win. Juggernaut eventually comes out on top, as usual when it comes to a purely-physical fight.

soujaboy09 Restricted

I don't understand why people make threads with Juggernaut where the only way to win is to beat him in a physical fight?

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Is this just a fight to put Juggernaut in jail? Because they'd win that. Juggernaut gets thrown around all the time.

soujaboy09 Restricted

No when he's moving he doesn't.

If he's moving foward, trying to move them out of the way. There going to be moved, period.

Mr Master Junior Member

Doc Samson can lift 70 tons, The Marvel Directory has a flaw that prints his strength at 25 tons, but don't sleep on the Doc, he has gone toe to toe with a Mindless and Savage Hulk and has held his own, eventually losing but after battles that have ravaged cities at a time.

And that bio is stupid if it says he's only bulletproof, I have every issue that Samson appeared in and his feats of durability are far beyond just bulletproof,
I mean are you telling me getting knocked by a Savage or Mindless Hulk countless times equates to just bulletproof, nah.

Mr Master Junior Member

And...

soujaboy09 Restricted

It doesn't make a diffrence he will still be walked through or over.