Thor & Beta Ray Bill vs. Black Adam & Captain Marvel

team URU take this 6.5/10

Originally posted by supremthor
bill and adam are able two take the hammers away.

Could be possible. If they do, they don't just fall to the ground; Billy & Teth wield them. And maybe they even hang on as Thor & Bill try to will them back. But, we've only seen Billy do something like that in the crossover. Adam may not be able to.

Stormbreaker can only be wielded by Beta Ray. It's how it was made and enchanted. Also, Odin would have to deem that person worthy to lift it. I doubt it would happen though.

if superman was able to cath an agery thors him with a left hand.. Adam and Billy can more then likly do it.

Superman had permission from Odin to do so. As the worlds began to separate, Odin basically said "f*ck you" and Superman couldn't hold it anymore.

Thats true. Cap and Adam could indeed stop the hands that weild the hammers much like Supes did. Nice point supremthor. I personally think this fight could go either way. 5/5 for both.

While i personally believe Superman catching the hammer and not breaking his hand in the process to be highly bogus, if he did it, BA and CM probably could as well.
And if anyone in DC were to worthy to wield them, it'd be these two, and WW of course.
Really good match, but i lean 6.5 times outta ten in the hammers duo's favor.
Hammers verasility >>>> The shazam teams durability.

Ok so we have A GOD and a guy who is possibly stronger then the previously mentioned god.

Versus

Two guys empowered by a FRACTION of a menagerie of gods and demi-gods

I think the victors are quite clear here.....

How many people think that Beta Ray Bill is not portrayed properly? What i'm getting at is the fact that he beat Thor in their first meeting, while possesing nothing more than his two fists.

Don't you think that he should have gotten a hell of a lot more powerful now that he has the hammer? Everyone else that wields it seems to grow in power, even Superman became stronger with it.

Not to get off of the subject, but I think Thor and Bill should take this more times than not, and as far as durabilty goes Bill was driven through a planet and it exploded in the Stormbreaker saga. IMO that's pretty tough.

Originally posted by supremthor
if superman was able to cath an agery thors him with a left hand.. Adam and Billy can more then likly do it.

Valid point but it's still a No-No

Black Adam is a villain , reformed but still a villain nonetheless. So that puts him off the 'grab the hammer and smack thor in the face with it' plan

Billy on the other hand possibly could , but he's still a child at heart and as such doesn't have the 'warriors spirirt' necessary to pick it up.

However, no one but Beta Ray can pick up Stormbreaker. He could also get Thor's hammer back for him. Or he could use both at the same time. Eeep.

This would be a great fight to see. Thor and Beta take it though...

Originally posted by grey fox
Valid point but it's still a No-No

Black Adam is a villain , reformed but still a villain nonetheless. So that puts him off the 'grab the hammer and smack thor in the face with it' plan

People who have used technology have been able to wield Mjolnir. That's how Doom is doing it. Adam would go plummeting to the ground like a lead ball.

Wasn't that flaw removed from the enchantment?

Nope. Only Beta Ray and Thunderstrike had hammers that were especially attuned to them.

I'm talking about the technology loophole with Mjolnir. I heard it was removed, nothing involving a Thor only enchantment.

I know. That's what I meant is the only ones that were augmented so no more than 1 person could hold them were Thunderstrike Mace and Stormbreaker. The technology thing never got removed to my knowledge. Either way, Doom's gonna be screwed when Thor returns and takes back his hammer.

Has Doom gotten ahold of the hammer in that upcoming Fantastic Four issue...?

Yeah. We just covered that.