Raven vs Phoenix (Rachel Summers)

Does Raven from The Titans have enough power to defeat the Phoenix force?

In a word...No

Phoenix force no....Rachel Summers yes...

I don't know man, Raven at her FULL potential is one CRAZY b*tch and ubber UBBER powerful. The magic she posses is just unfreakin' believable. The Teen Titan's tv show portrays her as just a girl with telekinises, but she has WAY more than that in terms of powers. Even though I believe she is vastly underrated for her divine abilities, I think she would in the end lose to the Phoenix.

she wuld beat rachel, but the phoenix force itself...no

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't know man, Raven at her FULL potential is one CRAZY b*tch and ubber UBBER powerful. The magic she posses is just unfreakin' believable. The Teen Titan's tv show portrays her as just a girl with telekinises, but she has WAY more than that in terms of powers. Even though I believe she is vastly underrated for her divine abilities, I think she would in the end lose to the Phoenix.

Actually the TV show portrayed her as a powerful telekinetic(she didn't strain pushing two buildings together), an empath(able to absorb and disperse pain to "heal"😉, incredibly skilled in magic, and a powerful telepath.

She was basically a more half-hour friendly version of her comicbook self.

Okay people, just because Rachel doesn't have Phoenix Force means she's a weakling. She's still pretty powerful without it, and she's been without it for some time.

I'd give it to Raven 6.5/10

Really I had no Idea tha Raven was that strong... is there any chance that Raven could overcome Rachel when she was able to beat Nova?

The thread is Rachel with access to the Phoenix Force, why are people talking in any other terms? 😕

Rachel wins 10/10

otherwise rachel would lose, of course she would wen u could grow extra eyes and had a supreme demonic overlord's blood coursing through your veins

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Does Raven from The Titans have enough power to defeat the Phoenix force?

rachel ftw

Racheal

Rachel still

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Actually the TV show portrayed her as a powerful telekinetic(she didn't strain pushing two buildings together), an empath(able to absorb and disperse pain to "heal"😉, incredibly skilled in magic, and a powerful telepath.

She was basically a more half-hour friendly version of her comicbook self.

Not to mention when she cut loose and went evil she was pretty damn h4x.
She is one of the few comic-to-cartoon magic users and she completely lived up to her comic roots with some very impressive feats as you said.

Rachel/phoenix for the win