Originally posted by BackFire
Because they hog farming spots constantly, and they sell their gold for real money, screwing up the economy.I've never had a problem with one in WoW, personally. I think their problem is a bit exaggerated.
WTF.
I knew about People Selling Items Over eBay with D2... Never thought much of it For MMPOs...
You mean people ACTUALLY buy items Out of game?
How much do they go for?
Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
WTF.I knew about People Selling Items Over eBay with D2... Never thought much of it For MMPOs...
You mean people ACTUALLY buy items Out of game?
How much do they go for?
They sell gold, not items. You can't transfer most items in WoW because they bind to your character as soon as you get them.
It's actually something that's going to become a big issue as time goes by.
Once you can map the value of game world coinage to real world money, it can be theorised that taking money from someone in-game is theft.
Right now, that prospect is ludicrous, but the more that real life motivations start to occur in-game, the more likely such a prospect will become.
The solution right now, btw, is that when you signed your EULA you actually signed away everything your character owns to the company anyway. But I don't know if that will always hold as a defence.
There has already been one real life murder over in-game items- so are real world law suits that inconceivable over time? Stranger things have happened.
"Sue On-line", I like...
The reason no-one really considered it before is computer stuff is just so much ones and zeroes, which no-one ever applied value to.
But perceptions change. Money, after all, is just pretty paper. The only reason money has value is because people believe it does.
And in fact, that is the only value of any object in the world anywhere. It is worth as much as people are prepared to pay for it.
Game accounts now sell for hundreds of pounds or more, in-game items likewise.
Once enough people believe that in-game items have real value, then that value will be no different at all from that of a solid object.
Give it twenty years, and we'll have a new generation of lawyers, attorneys, and even judges, who have grown up with this kind of on-line thinking being the default.
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Really, though, what this comes down to is that people are basically horrible. The real world is cruel and unfair. Computer games are meant to be an escape from reality, but the more you make multiplayer on-lone games that are designed to increase player interaction... the more they will simply become cruel and unfair as well.
I read an interesting article lately saying that multiplayer gaming might actually NOW be in its golden age. Why? Because, basically, every single thing about computer gaming can still be improved by designers- other than the people who play them. Humans themselves are not upgradable (well, not by the game designers anyway).
Perceptively, the article pointed out that the reason computer games were adopted in the first place is because it gave you something NON-human to play against, which hadn't really happened before. It seems odd for it to now come full circle.
People like to be competitive, hence the current boom, but the better computer AI gets, the less brilliant playing against thousands of on-line people with names like 'Trinityazz' yelling out "u sux haxor" in the middle of a fantasy game will seem.
It's not that multiplayer gaming online will die out, but the article thought that the idea that it will just keep growing and growing won't hold.
(Also I would hope it heralds better for co-operative gaming, which is my preference)
Re: My WoW charecter dissapeared!
Originally posted by Ronny
Last night I got off World of warcraft because my dad wanted the computer and when i logged back on my character was GONE. My dad didnt delete it cause hes not a complete *****. Is there any reason a character would just straight up disappear? I cant logg back in now because they are doing a patch so I dont know if shes back and it was just a bug or what...
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-6064551.html
The news gets worse 🙁
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's actually something that's going to become a big issue as time goes by.Once you can map the value of game world coinage to real world money, it can be theorised that taking money from someone in-game is theft.
Right now, that prospect is ludicrous, but the more that real life motivations start to occur in-game, the more likely such a prospect will become.
The solution right now, btw, is that when you signed your EULA you actually signed away everything your character owns to the company anyway. But I don't know if that will always hold as a defence.
There has already been one real life murder over in-game items- so are real world law suits that inconceivable over time? Stranger things have happened.
WoW II! The Capitalist Relm!
Featureing New Calsses and Items!
-Drugs!
-Thugs!
-Lawyers!
-Judge!
Impresse your friends with your Amazing Abillites To render your Foes
Banned for 15 to life fr killing the Elf!
Or you Could use your Lawyer and pay 100k to have some shady set up lock him up to where you could Cap the S.O.B. yourself! Or why not get your possy and make him your b°tch!? Then balme it on the Judge! And how because the Communist Guild is in Power, you just can't go threw life!
I can see it now 😐
Originally posted by El_NINO
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-6064551.htmlThe news gets worse 🙁
Yet Another Reason to Go With GW.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=187002835
Its official... WoW has been hacked and has stolen many peoples accounts and have sold each players accounts for goods. 🙁
Everyone gets accounts being stollen all wrong all the time because it has never happened to them personally. It goes a bit like this. I used to steal accounts for fun/boredom so i know the drill. You make an alt on some ranom server and make a macro saying that you want to trade your account with your chars for another account with similar gear of a certain class. Then you go into ironforge or orgrimmar and spam the macro once every ew minutes till you grab someones attention. Then you reel them in with random gear that you really dont have like epics and such and guilds etc. After they are all in you tell them your info and they tell you theirs. Most of the kids who want to do it are too stupid to know how to recall their passwords so your all good for the moment. You get their info and change it on the website immediately and call up blizzard and get teir email changed. Then while they are on our acount you change the PW and DC them. Then they're boned. Nowadays it doesnt work too well but sometimes you get people who dont know their SQA's and such. I know its wrong and trading/selling accounts is against the rules but who cares. As far as I see it we pay our 15 dollars a month for our account so therefor we shoulld be able to do what we please with it. Chinese farmers do F*** up the economy but i also think that they make it. Too many is bad and too little is bad. Every server needs them to create an economic equilibrium. Without them it would get screwy and no one would like the outrageous prices. Oh and yes they do sell items like BOE epics such as Krol blade or lifestone. Etc.
Originally posted by TheOne101
Everyone gets accounts being stollen all wrong all the time because it has never happened to them personally. It goes a bit like this. I used to steal accounts for fun/boredom so i know the drill. You make an alt on some ranom server and make a macro saying that you want to trade your account with your chars for another account with similar gear of a certain class. Then you go into ironforge or orgrimmar and spam the macro once every ew minutes till you grab someones attention. Then you reel them in with random gear that you really dont have like epics and such and guilds etc. After they are all in you tell them your info and they tell you theirs. Most of the kids who want to do it are too stupid to know how to recall their passwords so your all good for the moment. You get their info and change it on the website immediately and call up blizzard and get teir email changed. Then while they are on our acount you change the PW and DC them. Then they're boned. Nowadays it doesnt work too well but sometimes you get people who dont know their SQA's and such. I know its wrong and trading/selling accounts is against the rules but who cares. As far as I see it we pay our 15 dollars a month for our account so therefor we shoulld be able to do what we please with it. Chinese farmers do F*** up the economy but i also think that they make it. Too many is bad and too little is bad. Every server needs them to create an economic equilibrium. Without them it would get screwy and no one would like the outrageous prices. Oh and yes they do sell items like BOE epics such as Krol blade or lifestone. Etc.
Thats the retarded way of stealing from people but your not actually hacking now are you...
Hacking as in actually breaking into Blizzards servers and stealing personal information such as credit card, WoW account.. etc. I knew a guy who hacked into Runescape and changed a few peoples accounts, he would charge them money to do it too.
Originally posted by El_NINO
Thats the retarded way of stealing from people but your not actually hacking now are you...Hacking as in actually breaking into Blizzards servers and stealing personal information such as credit card, WoW account.. etc. I knew a guy who hacked into Runescape and changed a few peoples accounts, he would charge them money to do it too.
Unless he is actually Woring for RuneScape, it is IMPOSSIBLE to hack into RuneScape.
Unless you are one fo the best, but why would you do that when you could do so much more?
Originally posted by Ushgarak
And that article doesn't talk about hacking WoW itself, merely nabbing people's passwords via Trojans. All that needs is a programme that senses the password when typed in. They don't need to hack WoW at all.
Oh shoot, I missed read the article. This looks like a virus is placed in your PC with a keylogger and then is sent to the "hacker". Thanks Ush for correcting me.