YOU vs the Fantastic Four

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YOU vs the Fantastic Four

Let's say that the Fantastic Four have had it with the hero business and go tear-assing through New York City on a murderous rampage. Neither team gets prep and everyone has their standard equipment. Now can you assemble a team of 4 to stop them with these limitations (most of which I stole from the last tourney 😮)?

The Caps/Rules

*strength and durability/killability at or below the Thing

*Mach 10 speed or slower

*energy projection at or below Iron Man

*no magic, intangibility, teleportation, telepathy, time manipulation, matter/energy manipulation, immortality, or ability to transfer consciousness

List your team and state how they would beat the evil Fantastic Four if you can..... 😈

my team 1 spiderman 2 current iceman 3 karnak 4 batman

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
my team 1 spiderman 2 current iceman 3 karnak 4 batman

I think Iceman breaks a couple of the caps 😉

mmkay, here we go.
Iceman
Spider-Man (post other)
Thunderstrike
Ghost Rider

Here's how it goes:
The four people from my team separate the four heroes:
Ghost Rider takes on The Human Torch
Thundersrike to Reed Richards
Iceman to Sue Richards
Spider-Man to Thing

Spider-Man is merely a distraction for Ben Grimm, because Ben won't be able to hit him. Thunderstrike roasts Reed, Ghost Rider gives Johnny Hellfire and a Penance Stare (Johnny can't shield himself from Hellfire), Iceman freezes Sue in her force field, and when she breaks away from a field, Iceman freezes the moisture in her body. After the other three are done, they team up on Ben and put him down quickly.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
mmkay, here we go.
Iceman
Spider-Man (post other)
Thunderstrike
Ghost Rider

Here's how it goes:
The four people from my team separate the four heroes:
Ghost Rider takes on The Human Torch
Thundersrike to Reed Richards
Iceman to Sue Richards
Spider-Man to Thing

Spider-Man is merely a distraction for Ben Grimm, because Ben won't be able to hit him. Thunderstrike roasts Reed, Ghost Rider gives Johnny Hellfire and a Penance Stare (Johnny can't shield himself from Hellfire), Iceman freezes Sue in her force field, and when she breaks away from a field, Iceman freezes the moisture in her body. After the other three are done, they team up on Ben and put him down quickly.

I dont think Thunderstrike is allowed. He's just a weaker version of Thor

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
my team 1 spiderman 2 current iceman 3 karnak 4 batman
whats wrong with iceman ff have torch.

My team consists of one eraser and white out.

I win.😄

Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
I dont think Thunderstrike is allowed. He's just a weaker version of Thor

His energy projection and strength are nowhere near Iron Man or Ben Grimm. He's only a class 80. Also, I'm using Iceman without the second mutation which made him an Omega level.

Rogue

Batman

Spiderman

Dr. Doom ( Don't know if villains are allowed )

Originally posted by badabing
Dr. Doom ( Don't know if villains are allowed )

He uses magic.

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
whats wrong with iceman ff have torch.

Iceman is impossible to kill physically, since his consciousness is independant from any corporeal body. He can also internally tamper with pretty much anyone, and I'd give him very good odds of being able to freeze even Sue's brain, shield or no shield. Basically, he breaks a lot of caps.

Thunderstrike's within the caps... He's class 85ish, his energy projection is not up to par with IronMan, and he's not nearly as durable as Thing. Scoob actually had him on his tourney team...

TheKhan didn't outlaw one hit KO type attacks, so Ghost Rider would be ok here... As would a lot of other powers that got banned (teleportation, intangibility) because of it.

Hmmm... Just to be fun, I'll take 4 actual tourney picks. Iron Man, Doctor Light, Animal Man, and Exiles Mimic. The F4 has more raw power than was allowed in the tournament, (Human Torch and IW) but these 4 make for a hell of a lot more versatility than they can hope to come up with. In my mind, this fight would go pretty quickly, but come down to all 4 against Sue. Which wouldn't necessarily be a total beatdown, as Sue is monsterously powerful, but I really don't see her beating this team while blind and under heavy fire from 4 powerful energy attacks.

Originally posted by badabing
Rogue

Batman

Spiderman

Dr. Doom ( Don't know if villains are allowed )

Rogue

Batman

Spiderman

U.S. Agent

Originally posted by badabing
Rogue

Batman

Spiderman

U.S. Agent

who could us agent take out?

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
who could us agent take out?

I got stuck on a 4th person. I picked him because he's an amped up Captain America. I just figured him as more of a strong, agile diversion. I'm going to think of another 4th.

Originally posted by badabing
Rogue

Batman

Spiderman

U.S. Agent

Who could ANY of them take out? Think Iron Man level guys. Yknow, the characters that can kind of fight the heavy hitters like Superman and Thor, but will inevitably get their asses kicked every time. There's always loopholes around the overall power level by going for versatility. The F4 is way more powerful than the caps allow, so you need to think of fairly unique combinations.

Spider man
Black panther
Wolverine
Iceman

The top two have been known to take on the FF at once and lived to tell about it

Ok my team consists of

Grey Gargoyle

Wizard

Super-skrull

Glom

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Plan

Wizard tags Reed and Ben with his anti-gravity disks and then floats around just generally firing lasers at the 'Evil Four' .

Ben has been incapacitated by the disks before as has reed although he wont be able to escape before Grey Gargoyle grabs him , turning him into stone , which is then shattered by a single punch from SS

Super-skrull then pulls the 'Stretch myself into Piano-Wire' trick he did in his mini , cutting Ben in half.

Glom eats Johnny , end of story.

Sue is now left on the defensive with my team all blitzing her all to once, soon enough her shields break from the pressure and she's reduced to a red strain on the floor ...which Glom then eats.....

^ You put Glom in there just so he could eat things, didn't you?

My team would consist of Leech and three powerhouses who would up the powerless F4.

Re: YOU vs the Fantastic Four

Originally posted by TheKahn
Let's say that the Fantastic Four have had it with the hero business and go tear-assing through New York City on a murderous rampage. Neither team gets prep and everyone has their standard equipment. Now can you assemble a team of 4 to stop them with these limitations (most of which I stole from the last tourney 😮)?

[b]The Caps/Rules

*strength and durability/killability at or below the Thing

*Mach 10 speed or slower

*energy projection at or below Iron Man

*no magic, intangibility, teleportation, telepathy, time manipulation, matter/energy manipulation, immortality, or ability to transfer consciousness

List your team and state how they would beat the evil Fantastic Four if you can..... 😈 [/B]

Here are my four characters:

1) Dr Midnite
2) Plastic Man
3) Killer Frost
4) Sebastian Shaw

The problem I am facing is:

a) Find where the Invisible Woman (from hereon IW) is, since after all she can turn invisible.
b) Find a way of negating her forcefields and taking her out of the fight.
c) Deal with Reed
d) Deal with a super-brawler like the Thing.
e) Deal with a heat-generator at the level of the the Torch.

Here is my plan:

i) Dr Midnite has various lenses that allow him to see even though his vision is nigh-absent. One of those lenses is an 'ultra-sonic' lens, and thus IW is not longer invisible. When she goes invisible she is bending light around and having it pass through her, but she is still SOLID. Ultra-sonics are basically sonar, so she will show up like a Christmas tree at a Buddhist temple to Dr Midnite.

ii) At which point Plastic Man goes to work, wrapping himself all around IW (who will obviously have her protective bubble up). Now, even if she extends it to its maximum PM will just extend with it, and if she contracts it he will simply contract with it. I wonder how long she can survive without air in that lil' bubble of hers (in my opinion sooner or later she will die just like Unus the untouchable died, or a more recent example how Magneto defeated Cannoball by encircling him in metal and waiting until he was too exhausted to 'blast'😉.

iii) Here comes Johnny boy, obviously not too excited at what is happening. There steps Killer Frost, who has the ability to absorb external heat sourcs and turn them into supreme cold. Guess what Johnny boy is .....a very hot external heat source. He powers up Killer Frost by losing his flames.

iv) Now, what is Killer Frost to do with all that cold surging through her (courtesy of our dear, departed, friend Johnny)? Well, there is Reed trying to snake his way into the fight. In Tower of Babel Plastic Man was frozen and shattered, and if that could work against a shaper like PM imagine what it could do to someone like Reed! Suffice to say Reed becomes an elongated popsicle. If Killer Frost decides to be mean she may opt to shatter him as well, but that would not be necessary. Sadly Killer Frost is a sadist, thus bye-bye Mr Fantastic. It was nice knowing you. Adieu.

v) Ol' Ben is obviously not laughing by now. He is annoyed as heck and thinks it is clobbering time. At which point Sebastian Shaw decides to accomodate him, and stands in front of the Thing. Ben clobbers Sebastian, only to realize that his blows have no effect. In fact the more he hits Seb the stronger Seb gets. Unknown to Grimm, Sebastian Shaw is getting stronger, and not only that but suffering no damage.

At this point Seb could just stand there and receive Ben's punches (he's not getting hurt at all, the only effect is that he is getting stronger ...he could technically just stand there 'til kingdom come making squiggly faces at Ben), or he could trade punches with Ben, or he could just have Killer Frost (who has long finished dealing with Johnny and Richard) to come and 'cool off' Ben, or Dr Midnite could throw one of his blackout bombs at Ben and make him not see.
A whole host of options at this point.

Anyways, the fight is over, and my team heads over to my headoffice to collect a fat check for a job well done. I might even throw in a bonus if they do it in under 10 minutes.

Fin.