Originally posted by Templares
[B] Who are Marvels top threeNo.
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The closest thing that Marvel has to the Trinity would be the trio of its top teams: Avengers, Fantastic 4, and Xmen, all in all 20 plus characters.
Speaking as a Flash and GL fan, the idea of 3 characters receiving more push from the company than the rest, to the point of actually creating a title for it, is just plain GAY. [/B]
Originally posted by Tron
DC's top three are characters that trust each other and other characters look up to. So, Marvel's top three would have to have the same attributes. So, that would mean Hulk and Wolverine probably wouldn't a part of that, but Cap and Spidey definitely would be, Cap especially.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are DC's top three because they are the three most recognizable figures to everyday people. Captain Marvel would be fourth.
By these terms - who is the most commonly recognized, not just by comic fans - Marvel's top three is Spider Man, Hulk & Captain America.
Fourth is possibly Silver Surfer. He made it onto the cover of a 1970's album, by some band.
Originally posted by roughrider
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are DC's top three because they are the three most recognizable figures to everyday people. Captain Marvel would be fourth.
By these terms - who is the most commonly recognized, not just by comic fans - Marvel's top three is Spider Man, Hulk & Captain America.
Fourth is possibly Silver Surfer. He made it onto the cover of a 1970's album, by some band.
Spidey would have to be 1 in popularity. Not being biased, it's just an obvious fact. Wolverine has a lot of followers, but Spider-Man is more of a household name. Non-comic fans would be able to tell you something about him. Wolverin - not so much. That's the same thing that separates Supes from someone like GL. Even if they've heard of them, they don't know much about them.
So Spidey, Wolverine (just based on current trends), and then either Hulk/Cap. Though if you included teams rather than individuals, the order would probably be considerably different.
And as for DC's 4th, no way it's MM. No one outside of comics knows him. Flash is probably the best bet.
Originally posted by roughrider
The average person wouldn't recognize Green Lantern - Flash is a better bet. And Captain Marvel, you just say SHAZAM and everybody knows what you mean.This was the record album I was thinking of.
Hal Jordan is the 4th icon for DC. They say so themselves. If going by public knowledge, it would be hard to argue against Robin (Dick Grayson). Robin is as well known as Batman and the most well known Robin is Dick.
Robin is associated with Batman, like Catwoman & the Joker. Doesn't count here, if you ask me. Same with Supergirl - she's attached with Clark & all.
A lot of what makes characters popular is how much they've been seen in mass media. Supes & Bats have a dozen movies or so together, and numeorus animated & live-action television shows. Wonder Woman, people still remember the 1970's TV show. And Captain Marvel had his own live-action show on saturday mornings; that's how I got introduced to him. Just two years ago in the movie COLLATERAL, a character mentions SHAZAM to describe a situation. When your name becomes part of everyday language, you are a heavy part of culture. Same goes for Supes, Bats, WW, Spidey, Hulk, Cap, Conan, Flash & others. Actually, even Aquaman could be better known than Green Lantern.
Now, Marvel - Spidey had several animated shows and some tries at live-action TV before the movies. He's there for sure. The Hulk permanently jumped into the public's mind thanks to the Bill Bixby TV show. Cap isn't as widely read, but he's instantly recognizable, and his name has been used in places like MEN IN BLACK, EASY RIDER and Law & Order.
X-Men are close to joining this club, thanks to the appeal of the movies.
Originally posted by roughrider
Robin is associated with Batman, like Catwoman & the Joker. Doesn't count here, if you ask me. Same with Supergirl - she's attached with Clark & all.A lot of what makes characters popular is how much they've been seen in mass media. Supes & Bats have a dozen movies or so together, and numeorus animated & live-action television shows. Wonder Woman, people still remember the 1970's TV show. And Captain Marvel had his own live-action show on saturday mornings; that's how I got introduced to him. Just two years ago in the movie COLLATERAL, a character mentions SHAZAM to describe a situation. When your name becomes part of everyday language, you are a heavy part of culture. Same goes for Supes, Bats, WW, Spidey, Hulk, Cap, Conan, Flash & others. Actually, even Aquaman could be better known than Green Lantern.