Malak was described as the best duelist of a MORE militant order of Jedi, which include masters such as Kavar and Vrook. Mace Windu's only real competition was against Yoda, similarly, Malak was second only to Revan. Revan is superiour to Yoda.
Really? Based on what? Revan superior to Yoda? Have you read any of Yoda's descriptions? Seen any of Yoda's feats (particularly those in EU?). No? So you're just making a vastly uninformed guess here, right?
More militant order? A order that had most of its competent masters from 50 years ago slaughtered AND had the stores of Jedi knowledge on Ossus destroyed? Let me tell you something, when you destroy the knowledge center AND take out most of the people that would know anything, you're left with a watered down order. Kavar and Vrook, wonderful, let's compare Malak to two people who we know even less about.
How on earth can you assume Revan's battle against Kar would be long AT all. Revan is a superiour duelist to Yoda, who in turn is superiour at dueling than Mace. Kar was beaten by Mace. Revan pwns.
Simple, Kar has such insane raw force power that he's demonstrated some very impressive feats that Revan have not been able to duplicate. Yes, let's use A > B > C, because that's always the case, right? 🙄
First, establish that Yoda would beat Mace quickly. Establish that Mace would beat Kar quickly (he won't, because he had more than just a little bit of trouble with Kar). Then establish that Revan is superior to Yoda, and not with more fallacious arguments.
The supreme overlord could try and bud in, but Kar would be out before you know it and Revan would be dueling the overlord, and winning. The argument that the Overlord was capable of defeating several amounts of Jedi means nothing. Revan fought an even larger number on board the Star Forge.
At once? Where? Show me which room he fought more than a small handful of Jedi without a party.
Shimrra had the upper hand against Luke in their fight. Tell me how Revan is taking out a foe that is highly resistant to his lightsaber, has an amphistaff that can block his saber AND mold into various shapes, such as roping him, grabbing him, whipping him, and *****-slapping him? Tell me how Revan is going to beat a foe that he CAN'T USE THE FORCE on. Show me that his battle precog even works on a foe that's NOT PART OF THE FORCE.
I'll wait.
If you were not so inherently biased towards people in the NJO/DN series of books (including the supreme "pushover"😉 you would understand my arguments, instead of clinging towards your overlord.
Honestly, I hate NJO/DN. I still think the Supreme Overlord will beat the crap out of either of these opponents rather quickly. Neither of these opponents will beat BOTH Mace and Kar. Mace's saber competency will keep either of them busy, Kar's force power is immense, tell me how either of them will beat a Vaapad master AND the "future of the Jedi," please.
Again, I'll wait.
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
i'd say revan and malak could take mace and Kar with effort to stay alive from the supreme overlord but he'd end up killing malak and then it's just revan and the overlod. i don't think revan can win. so the trio win.
Revan and Malak could take Mace and Kar while the Supreme Overlord sips Martini sure. If the supreme overlord gets involved, it'll be 1 against 2, regardless of who he attacks.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Really? Based on what? Revan superior to Yoda? Have you read any of Yoda's descriptions? Seen any of Yoda's feats (particularly those in EU?). No? So you're just making a vastly uninformed guess here, right?More militant order? A order that had most of its competent masters from 50 years ago slaughtered AND had the stores of Jedi knowledge on Ossus destroyed? Let me tell you something, when you destroy the knowledge center AND take out most of the people that would know anything, you're left with a watered down order. Kavar and Vrook, wonderful, let's compare Malak to two people who we know even less about.
Simple, Kar has such insane raw force power that he's demonstrated some very impressive feats that Revan have not been able to duplicate. Yes, let's use A > B > C, because that's always the case, right? 🙄
First, establish that Yoda would beat Mace quickly. Establish that Mace would beat Kar quickly (he won't, because he had more than just a little bit of trouble with Kar). Then establish that Revan is superior to Yoda, and not with more fallacious arguments.
At once? Where? Show me which room he fought more than a small handful of Jedi without a party.
Shimrra had the upper hand against Luke in their fight. Tell me how Revan is taking out a foe that is highly resistant to his lightsaber, has an amphistaff that can block his saber AND mold into various shapes, such as roping him, grabbing him, whipping him, and *****-slapping him? Tell me how Revan is going to beat a foe that he CAN'T USE THE FORCE on. Show me that his battle precog even works on a foe that's NOT PART OF THE FORCE.
I'll wait.
Honestly, I hate NJO/DN. I still think the Supreme Overlord will beat the crap out of either of these opponents rather quickly. Neither of these opponents will beat BOTH Mace and Kar. Mace's saber competency will keep either of them busy, Kar's force power is immense, tell me how either of them will beat a Vaapad master AND the "future of the Jedi," please.
Again, I'll wait.
Pwned like Shaq at the free throw line.