Originally posted by KingD19
Gambit's normal cards are about equivalent to a hand grenade. He charged Cap's entire chest piece.
To kill Earth's most celebrated and beloved hero? The guy who even Punisher respects so much that he wouldn't fight back? I know that AvsX was badly written, but to claim Remy would use an amount of force high enough to blow up Cap is ridiculous nonsense. Gambit can control the force of his explosions anyways.
Originally posted by BentleyThe problem I have with that idea is the way the nearby trees react to the explosion, I think they indicate that its quite a powerful blast.
I must assume he actually held back from his regular high end explosions. It would be against Gambit's intentions to kill Cap, so he probably just wanted to ko him but Cap proved to be too superhumanly sturdy compared to a regular human -or whichever amount of force Gambit decided to use as a comparision not to kill Cap-.
Personally I think that story was just a case of fan-wankery from the writer (someone mentioned in another thread that the writer didn't seem to even know how Gambit's powers work), but i'm still not sure if I'd want to discount it on that assumption alone.
Originally posted by Silent_Bomber
Agreed
Going by the Gambit scan the Lawgiver would be ineffectual, Dredd would be shooting Hi-Ex's and even if they hit Captain America they wouldn't be doing any damage.
He'd be using a variety. He'd be using heatseeker, and ricochet, and AP, and so on.
Dredd is an incredible skilled gunfighters who's dangerous even with basic bullets.
Originally posted by Silent_Bomber
The problem I have with that idea is the way the nearby trees react to the explosion, I think they indicate that its quite a powerful blast.
Explosions that are weaker at point blank and get more powerful when they expand, huh? As you mentioned it would seem the writer didn't know how Gambit's power work.
Anyways, tree busting strength should be between the victinicy of what Cap can tank, since he has taken hits from people who can break trees in half with a kick and such, but it's not something that directly relates with how well he can take bullets.
Originally posted by Q99Not even a singe?
The shield can handle stub guns.
Originally posted by Q99Yeah but Stub Guns can slice through... pretty much everything.
It's proof against... pretty much everything.
People in the Marvel Universe have managed to outright destroy the shield before haven't they?
Originally posted by Bentley
To kill Earth's most celebrated and beloved hero? The guy who even Punisher respects so much that he wouldn't fight back? I know that AvsX was badly written, but to claim Remy would use an amount of force high enough to blow up Cap is ridiculous nonsense. Gambit can control the force of his explosions anyways.
Look at the size of that explosion. The force looked like it even uprooted some trees.
Gambit may not have tried to kill Captain America (Not entirely sure, AvX was butchering characterization so who knows), but clearly would have left a non-meta as a stain.
Captain America beat the shit out of Warpath in that same fight. Tanking an explosion from a Gambit who tried to blow him up might not even be the craziest feat of that battle
I'd also like to point out that it was stated Gambit fully charged Steve's shield with kinetic energy when he tossed at it him so he wasn't exactly going easy.
Here's the scene I was talking about:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871956/AVX-Zone_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871968/AVX-Zone_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871972/AVX-Zone_017.jpg.html
Beats Warpath, then Gambit (Again?), easy. F*cking Captain America, son.
Originally posted by BentleyStumm gas (which I believe is a standard piece of utility belt equipment) might help if the fight was in a building.
The shield can take pretty much anything Dredd can ditch, but it won't save Steve for long with a barrage of bullets, heat seekers and other nifty tricks Dredd carries.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here's the scene I was talking about:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871956/AVX-Zone_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871968/AVX-Zone_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871972/AVX-Zone_017.jpg.htmlBeats Warpath, then Gambit (Again?), easy. F*cking Captain America, son.
This is hilarious, but I still think that Cap + Fury beating the U-foes it's beyond it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here's the scene I was talking about:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871956/AVX-Zone_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871968/AVX-Zone_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871972/AVX-Zone_017.jpg.htmlBeats Warpath, then Gambit (Again?), easy. F*cking Captain America, son.
Mad jobbing 🙂
Not even a case of skill. Gambit's trying to throw cards at Cap when's half a foot away from him.
