Batgirl vs Iron Fist

Originally posted by Superherovandal
yeah she really only had trouble with those two. And Cass is better than Batman and Lady Shiva. She's beaten Shiva twice. and Bats is nowhere near as good as Shiva. And i would say actually Batgirl is more skilled. She's easily dodged multiple bullets at point-blank range and even found a weakness in Superboy's TTK aura. She's kinda like a very lite Karate Kid. But still i'd say with the IF and the chi powers IF wins like 7/10 but not because he's more skilled he's pretty close but not MORE skilled.

Shiva LET Cass win, and Batman ridiculed Cass's skills, saying her defense was utter shit without her move reading ability.

He also fought her to a stand still using only one arm for most of the fight.

Yes because she wasn't used to fighting without the reading ability. and Cass beat Shiva fair and square a second time during the last Batgirl issue.

Shiva has alterer motives in mind when fighting Cass. Who can say what the are exactly; maybe it is just some twisted, misguided mother thing but she has never gone full out against Cass. She hasn't even attempted to use the Leopard's Blow against her.

still she didnt intend to lose the fight but she did. Even if she kill Cass she could have revived her with the Lazarus Pit.

cass skills are rather pethetic it his special ability to read moves that makes her good

Originally posted by capt it up
cass skills are rather pethetic it his special ability to read moves that makes her good

Cass' skills are good!

They just aren't Shiva or Batman good, without her move reading ability.

With it, she MIGHT be Batman level, though I'd still say that Bruce would take her for a very slight majority .