Originally posted by olympianwho won ?
Mags and Hercules only encountered once that im aware:http://superherochat.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=107090
Check Thorion`s thread to see it.
As it goes its unlikely Herc would use the tactics of trowing islands at Mags, he prefers to go hand to hand mostly.
Mags has more versability on his side and his shields are pretty uber. Herc way to win its bfr.
About Mindless Hulk. Lets be fair. He was about to kill him when they managed to get Hulk down, not before. These two have always except for one moment fought inconclusivly.
Final note. Check the thread!
"remember its god herc he can do it"
That was God form Hercules, 4J...
( Ancient demi God Hercules only shows up in form of flasback takes, or stories specifically happening in that period, like one Herc had with the Argonauts for example, or the upcoming "Thing" time travel story with him going to ancient greece and meeting Herc (as demi - god) for the first time. Since his first apperances during the 60`s in "Thor", he has been a God, until he got depowered ).
Going on the topic..
Thor hasent been able to breach Mags shields with force either and hes also a God.
In fact Herc its one of -if- not the one that managed to do better using strenght only, against a shielded Mags.
I dont recall others doing the same he did. Usually they try to punch the man and he doesnt even budge.
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"who won ?"
Ended inconclusivaly iirc. Shortly after, they had to deal with a Doom-mind-controlled Hulk wich is also in that thread. Also without a clear cut winner.
Originally posted by olympian
"remember its god herc he can do it"That was God form Hercules, 4J...
( Ancient demi God Hercules only shows up in form of flasback takes, or stories specifically happening in that period, like one Herc had with the Argonauts for example, or the upcoming " Thing" time travel story with him going to ancient greece and meeting Herc (as demi - god) for the first time. Since his first apperances in "Thor", he has been a God, until he got depowered ).
Going on the topic..
Thor hasent been able to breach Mags shields with force either and hes also a God.
In fact Herc its one of. if not the one that managed to do better using strenght only, against a shielded Mags.
I dont recall others doing the same he did. Usually they try to punch the man and he doesnt even budge.
"who won ?"
Ended inconclusivaly iirc. Shortly after, they had to deal with a Doom-mind-controlled Hulk wichis also in that thread. Also without a clear cut winner.
Actually, Thor has breached Magneto's shields. However, he's able to absorb the energy and redirect it then fold right back at Magneto. I don't know if Herc could really pound hard enough to breach it, but I don't really know if Magneto could shield himself from getting hit with buildings and so forth.
Originally posted by olympianthor is a god as well if you didnt remember that
"remember its god herc he can do it"That was God form Hercules, 4J...
( Ancient demi God Hercules only shows up in form of flasback takes, or stories specifically happening in that period, like one Herc had with the Argonauts for example, or the upcoming "Thing" time travel story with him going to ancient greece and meeting Herc (as demi - god) for the first time. Since his first apperances during the 60`s in "Thor", he has been a God, until he got depowered ).
Going on the topic..
Thor hasent been able to breach Mags shields with force either and hes also a God.
In fact Herc its one of -if- not the one that managed to do better using strenght only, against a shielded Mags.
I dont recall others doing the same he did. Usually they try to punch the man and he doesnt even budge.
- - -
"who won ?"
Ended inconclusivaly iirc. Shortly after, they had to deal with a Doom-mind-controlled Hulk wich is also in that thread. Also without a clear cut winner.
Originally posted by olympian
The one time Thor did, he used his hammer exotic abilities to somewhat cancel the shield. Not sheer force, correct?I actually wonder how many have punched Mags with his shield on and sent him flying.
I think I said that he had that advantage. Don't remember. Need sleep. Has any physical force ever breached that shield?
Originally posted by olympian
Hey Leo. You have the other fight aside the Champions one?I dont remember about it.
And Mags has the obvious edge. Unless he forgets he can shield himself from Hercs punches or moves.
Altho 10/10 hardly happens in comics. In that fight they both didnt do much other than send the other flying.
hey oly -- it happened in new mutants #40 (i think) basically, herc caught mags (who was in the middle of the whole 'trying to be a good guy' thing and wasn't fighting back). but when he decided he didn't want the avengers to take him in, he strained, expanded a force field, and broke herc's (up til then, apparently) 'unbreakable' grip.
didn't do any real damage to herc, just pissed him off, but mags wasn't TRYING to hurt him OR the other avengers.
i'm afraid mags has just too big an arsenal for herc to realistically combat. and in a city setting, the advantage wouldn't necessarily be to herc -- that would make for a lot of things mags could use as weaponry.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Actually, Thor has breached Magneto's shields. However, he's able to absorb the energy and redirect it then fold right back at Magneto. I don't know if Herc could really pound hard enough to breach it, but I don't really know if Magneto could shield himself from getting hit with buildings and so forth.
where did thor do this?
just checked and saw the scan. pretty cool. i always believed thor should be able to do that -- even said it in some debate or other.
in mag's defense that was not the upgraded version. that was old school mags who couldn't do much more than throw metal at people. i still think thor could likely do the same to the upgraded version, but i can hear the mags' lovers already screaming . . .😉
and of course, if herc is using thor's hammer, he wins! 😄
without it, he loses . . . 🙁