since there is no battle field removal i would hope how can the champ win cain is invunrable even to the power of galactus and the elders dont have a sefficiant power level to even fight galactus so no one should bring that he has the power primordial into this he isnt on the pheonix level of using it, im not saying cain would win but how can the champ hurt him.
Listen these beings are supposed to represent the same thing. Supposedly unbeatable enmies that somehow job all the time.
This fight thus comes down to which power source better.
Personally I think Power Primordial is better but no one really knows what power level Cyttorak is on so a clear cut decision is almost impossible.
its not true that there invincible just cause there part of the power primordial there not essential they just happen to have that power but they dont have anything to do with its existence, thats the PF's job, alot of the elders have died, in fact in-betweener once forced death to break her promise and made some elders die a second time. if they where essential to the universe there would probably be a maximum effort to keep them alive like they do galactus, or even darkseid but there not essential so thus they die and can be killed, if this guy doesnt have the feats to back up his supposid power then how can we gage his power against anyone? I mean ok he punched a planet, drax and thanos can do those things as well and so can beta ray bill and probably thor, we know that thor got his butt handed to him badly by a focused juggernaut and thus i would think the same would happend to beta ray bill with maybe just a little more effort but then again maybe not since not even the odin force can hurt juggs.
Originally posted by batdude123
That's complete bullsh*t. Thing shouldn't have even TOUCHED him. That's PIR.
yeah he broke champion ribs but it didn't even phase champion and then he proceed to beat the thing ass almost to death. Well written champion is unbeatable in h2h combat bottom line, Champion is a animal let's admit juggernaut is no thanos. Champion will land 100 punches on juggernaut before can land one, Champion is 2.5 billions years old and has been fighting ever since he will ripe juggernaut helmet off then proceed to kick his ass up and down earth, if it's power gem champion it would even be a fight champion will knock juggernaut ass into another dimension.
Champion 10/10
Originally posted by Mider
its not true that there invincible just cause there part of the power primordial there not essential they just happen to have that power but they dont have anything to do with its existence, thats the PF's job, alot of the elders have died, in fact in-betweener once forced death to break her promise and made some elders die a second time. if they where essential to the universe there would probably be a maximum effort to keep them alive like they do galactus, or even darkseid but there not essential so thus they die and can be killed, if this guy doesnt have the feats to back up his supposid power then how can we gage his power against anyone? I mean ok he punched a planet, drax and thanos can do those things as well and so can beta ray bill and probably thor, we know that thor got his butt handed to him badly by a focused juggernaut and thus i would think the same would happend to beta ray bill with maybe just a little more effort but then again maybe not since not even the odin force can hurt juggs.
They can't die unless death breaks the curse herself or they lose their will to server their purpose, until then they can't die by no means what so ever. She did break the curse for other elders but not the main ones ego, grandmaster, collector, the runner champion are still under her curse.
Cyttorak is cosider by some a skyfather or a elder demon god, of corse odin magic is not going to work on juggernaut duh and since cytorrak is one of gaea's children and his powers are more devine.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
You must not have seen what Thanos did to Champion, in that fight Champion didn't look like no super fighter there. I also think if Juggernaut can take the god blast with a smile than he can take a few punches from champion.
Champion powers are greater than thor's godblast. Champion will beat juggernaut ass for the next 100 years and would love doing it to.
Powers Primodial =Power of Cosmic
Originally posted by Soleran
Juggernaut isn't cyttorak though he's just an avatar of him on EarthIs SS as powerful as Galactus, nope he's just an "avatar" herald if you will, but not as powerful.
SS cant call upon Galactus for more power when he wants now can he? Galactus also didn't grant SS an unbreakable impenetrable force field did he?
Originally posted by Thanos_6383
Anyways.Has Juggernaut ever faced anyone who could 1 shot a planet like Champion did?
He's faced Thor, whom he made look like a fool. The only people he has faced that are stronger than Thor are the other 7 exemplars. During the 8th day sags he got in a push pull with Stonecutter that almost destroyed the world. It was said that no other force outside themselves could stop the physical force they were exerting.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
SS cant call upon Galactus for more power when he wants now can he? Galactus also didn't grant SS an unbreakable impenetrable force field did he?
Thor's hammer still went through that impenetrable force field it jsut lowed it down, so impenetrable huh........................hyperbole
Juggernaut isn't cyttorak get it through your head, he represets his power on earth. Regardless Champion can fight forever as a matter of fact fighing is what keeps his existance.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Cyttorak is stronger than most think. I think he would make Odin look like a child when it comes to magic manipulation. He captured Dr.Strange, and Nova with little or no effort at all.
hello he was in his realm where he is omnipotent, he goes to Asgard he will get served like a b***h by Odin as where he is top sorcerer in his realm.