Originally posted by the Darkone
Well written full potential Champion will kill orion, Champion is immortal cursed by death. Champion will orion in a coma, primodial powers= power of cosmic >>> astro force.
It should be the other way around, a well written Orion should beat just about everyone. He has the potential to surpass Darkseid(and he will), and Darkseid is just below Galactus.
When Orion goes mad, he is like Warrior madness Thor, he has unlimited strength.
The Astro Force comes directly from the The Source(everything in the DC Multiverse). If the power cosmic is in DC, it would stem from the Source just like everything else.
Powers primodial is part of the big bang, Champion will kill Orion. Champion is already supe strong to unknow levels with primodial powers he can increase it to my be abstracts levels plus with his billion years of fighting experience Orion doesn't has a chance in hell of beating Champion well written of course. Orion is one bad mofo but he can't really defeat his father who will kick him out the universe again, Elders of the universe are skyfathers or low level skyfathers level beings except for Ego who is on anormal Galactus level. Well written champion wins 10/10