WOW! So that he CLEARLY got crushed by REX doesnt count as a defeat? Hmmm intresting 😆 and the ice demon didnt die by cutting of his heads.
Lets compare someone who Dante have fought who is much like Fox is comparation...ah yes Vergil who also uses uses a katana but with demonic power flowing in it, he's just as swift as Fox is with his blade cuz he too can deflect bullets AND throw them back at the same speed as they came if not faster. Dante and Vergil are twins and Dante have beaten Vergil countless times and i've found one obvious weakness in Fox. He's a cyborg, a cyborg is made of metal and metal can draw and lead electricity and Dante has one one move with his lighting sword that is homing and he can charge his guns with same power and if I'm not totally misstaken, arent katanas also made metall? See my point?
Originally posted by IcePunk
WOW! So that he CLEARLY got crushed by REX doesnt count as a defeat? Hmmm intresting 😆 and the ice demon didnt die by cutting of his heads.
Lets compare someone who Dante have fought who is much like Fox is comparation...ah yes Vergil who also uses uses a katana but with demonic power flowing in it, he's just as swift as Fox is with his blade cuz he too can deflect bullets AND throw them back at the same speed as they came if not faster. Dante and Vergil are twins and Dante have beaten Vergil countless times and i've found one obvious weakness in Fox. He's a cyborg, a cyborg is made of metal and metal can draw and lead electricity and Dante has one one move with his lighting sword that is homing and he can charge his guns with same power and if I'm not totally misstaken, arent katanas also made metall? See my point?
😄 Funny. Tell me. If you on purpose allow someone to hit you with the baseball bat and kill you because otherwise he would've killed your friend, would you concider that you was defeated in the fair fight?
No? Thought so.
Well simmilar thing happend while Fox was fighting Rex. He almost destroyed it with minimum efforts. And he would've done that, but he had to save Snake by holding Rex's leg. He allowed Rex to step on him.
You are now making it Dante vs Fox only, you forgot there are Vamp and Fear there too. Both Vamp and Fox move faster than Dante. In the first second of the fight they'd land multiple attacks on him. How the hell he'll gonna use his magic if someone puts knifes in his head?
Originally posted by samisheSo he also alowed REX to crush himself against a wall? 😆
😄 Funny. Tell me. If you on purpose allow someone to hit you with the baseball bat and kill you because otherwise he would've killed your friend, would you concider that you was defeated in the fair fight?
No? Thought so.Well simmilar thing happend while Fox was fighting Rex. He almost destroyed it with minimum efforts. And he would've done that, but he had to save Snake by holding Rex's leg. He allowed Rex to step on him.
You are now making it Dante vs Fox only, you forgot there are Vamp and Fear there too. Both Vamp and Fox move faster than Dante. In the first second of the fight they'd land multiple attacks on him. How the hell he'll gonna use his magic if someone puts knifes in his head?
Originally posted by IcePunk
So he also alowed REX to crush himself against a wall? 😆
And Dante is just as fast as Vergil, but NOT in gameplay, it would be way too easy then, so three words to you : WATCH THE CUTSCENES.
If Dante had his gameplay speeds in a cutscene then Vergil wuld most likely win and there wound be no sequels to the first one 😆
A bullet didnt stop his magic so should a knife do so ? 😆
And our devil twins have uber quick healing; Vergil got almost cut in half
but the two halves didnt seperate cuz of his uber healing, Dante as I said before got a BIG sword (way bigger than any katana) through his own heart and out on the other side and seconds later he's doing a combo and it's in slow mo and he's swinging in gameplay speeds...gameplay speeds in slow mo hmm that's fast.
I guess when comparing Fox with Vamp, I think Vamp is better at dodging since he can just go zooom from one place to another without even seeing him move or see him at all and you cant say the same about Fox. But Vamp still got killed by a sniper shot to his head and Raiden beat him in an fight before that and Raiden too is a human with somewhat enhanced abilities and the same thing goes for the Fear who isnt that fast he's only acrobatic and soon dead.
Fox had to stand between Snake and Rex' leg, so yes he allowed Rex to step on him.
Vamp wasn't KILLED by sniper shot.
Are you saying that Dante immortal? May be his speed is on pair with Fox and Vamp, but he has three enemies together. Chance for dante to use magic before he is attacked or parelised by Vamp is very small.
No Fox did not die only to save Snake. He saved Snake by holding the foot, then they both talked to eachother while hiding from Rex, then Fox said, "I'll stop it from moving". Then he was very skilled and had MG outnumbered but didn't count on that beam which cut off his arm....
If he didn't have to rush to stop it from getting out of there though, he could have done it at a better pace (probably WITH a plan this time) and win.
Originally posted by samisheobviously you havent played Twin snakes cuz first he gets his arm shot of then crushed against a wall then he saves Snake and gets crushed by REX's foot I'm not sure about that order but he got crushed on the FLOOR last.
Fox had to stand between Snake and Rex' leg, so yes he allowed Rex to step on him.
Vamp wasn't KILLED by sniper shot.
Are you saying that Dante immortal? May be his speed is on pair with Fox and Vamp, but he has three enemies together. Chance for dante to use magic before he is attacked or parelised by Vamp is very small.
And if my assumtion about you not having played Twin snakes is correct, here's a tip; buy it, play it, watch it (yes you can actually)
And how would you know Vamp didnt die? A sniper penetrates through skulls like butter and you have actual proof of that he survived, b'sides knifes are easier to dodge than bullets, even Raiden showed how easy it was.
And he risk of Dante getting hit at all is also very small and the chance of Dante THINKING the thought "quicksilver" is very big since he he's not alowed to use DT and one thing is for sure, thoughts "move" faster than movements.
Originally posted by IcePunk
obviously you havent played Twin snakes cuz first he gets his arm shot of then crushed against a wall then he saves Snake and gets crushed by REX's foot I'm not sure about that order but he got crushed on the FLOOR last.
Since he got crushed (not totally) against the wall by REX, the badass robot who we agreed was SLOW, he may be good at dodging small projectiles like bullets but he couldnt dodge the knee of an slow mashine? Hmmm interresting 😆And if my assumtion about you not having played Twin snakes is correct, here's a tip; buy it, play it, watch it (yes you can actually)
And how would you know Vamp didnt die? A sniper penetrates through skulls like butter and you have actual proof of that he survived, b'sides knifes are easier to dodge than bullets, even Raiden showed how easy it was.
Yopu're right i never played twin snakes. I played only original metal ger solid like 5 years ago, so i forgot some things. But they are very simillar. Almost the same.
I can tell that Vamp is not dead because of the water. Water is the thing that keeps him alive. Remember when Raiden shot him for the first time? One Fortune's tear was enough to bring him back to life. Same happened when Vamp fought Raiden 1 on 1. He fell in the water.
And your assumption that Fox can dodge only small objects like bullets is kinda wierd, since he moves faster than human eye can detect.
Still he couldnt dodge an attack that anyone could have seen a mile away and the one who moves faster than the human eye can detect is Vamp, they're not the same person BTW 😛 or do you mean when Fox is invisible? Well that doesnt count 😛 or maybe it is cuz the psx grafics? Trust me he's qiute detectable in Twin snakes but still fast.
Originally posted by IcePunk
Still he couldnt dodge an attack that anyone could have seen a mile away and the one who moves faster than the human eye can detect is Vamp, they're not the same person BTW 😛 or do you mean when Fox is invisible? Well that doesnt count 😛
I mean Fox can move faster than human eye can detect. Remember he how he cut Ocelots arm? It was like a Flash.
He and Vamp have nearly the same speed.
Originally posted by samisheWell that was cuz :
I mean Fox can move faster than human eye can detect. Remember he how he cut Ocelots arm? It was like a Flash.
He and Vamp have nearly the same speed.
Originally posted by IcePunk
obviously you havent played Twin snakes cuz first he gets his arm shot of then crushed against a wall then he saves Snake and gets crushed by REX's foot I'm not sure about that order but he got crushed on the FLOOR last.
Since he got crushed (not totally) against the wall by REX, the badass robot who we agreed was SLOW, he may be good at dodging small projectiles like bullets but he couldnt dodge the knee of an slow mashine? Hmmm interresting 😆And if my assumtion about you not having played Twin snakes is correct, here's a tip; buy it, play it, watch it (yes you can actually)
And how would you know Vamp didnt die? A sniper penetrates through skulls like butter and you have actual proof of that he survived, b'sides knifes are easier to dodge than bullets, even Raiden showed how easy it was.
And he risk of Dante getting hit at all is also very small and the chance of Dante THINKING the thought "quicksilver" is very big since he he's not alowed to use DT and one thing is for sure, thoughts "move" faster than movements.
Yes that's how the fight goes, but how fast would you react if you got your arm cut off then had fallen down from mabey 20m up in the air. Apparently he saw that the knee was coming (since he screamed when it approached him) but was to wounded to dodge it.
You can see Vamp sitting behind a car at the ending of Metal Gear Solid 2...
Originally posted by IcePunk
Well that was cuz :
A.) he attacked Ocelot from above and behind
B.) he was cloaked so ofcourse he didnt see Fox
C.) the slow mo wasnt that slow
There are many other examples where it was shown how fast he is.
Like when you fights him or when he dodges bullets from Rex. You can see the bullets flying and even compareing to bullets he was moving rather fast.