Originally posted by zephiel7
The idea of Revan being weaker than Shimrra is unfounded bullshit, sadly enough...

Lets look at the facts...

[B]Luke had a hard time against Shimrra
Shimraa fanboys gather around! I have something to tell you, although you may have difficulty accepting what I have to say. It is indeed true that Luke had to fight through an army of Yuzang Vong, before the the "supreme pushover" hoped to stand a chance in a battle between the two.

I'm sorry, but Luke was tired and Shimraa merely capitalized on this. Luke if given enough time to rest, would have easily taken down Shimraa, as he had taken down the army of Vong in what was described as a "maelstorm" of force energy. A staff that can change forms is still no match for a very powerful Jedi. Proven: Luke decapitated Shimraa.

Why Revan would indeed beat Shimra
Revan, with the aid of Echani precognition, stands perhaps an even better chance against Shimrra. There are sources that suggest that Revan possesses the holocron of Tulak Hord, reputed to be the greatest duelist amongst the ancient Sith. (Proof: Kreia's word, logical deductions from the fact that Revan obtained the holocron from Lashowe, and that the dark Jedi academy on Korriban were destroyed.) If you are saying that Hord stands no chance against Shimrra, then you are crazy.

Revan defeated a star forge empowered Malak, who was described as being "invincible." The battle was definately a lightsaber duel, given Malak's strong disposition towards dueling. I highly doubt the battle would have been force based, since every single battle between force users has degenerated into two melee weapons clashing (whether they be lightsabers, ancient sith swords... etc). Also it was described as an "epic duel," which clearly evidences lightsabers clashing.

Revan was stated to possess Echani precognition that surpassed Echani elders. This included the ability to foresee the outcome of WARS. Clearly the ability to foresee moves is evidence enough that Shimraa will not possess any advantage with his "vaunted" staff.

With Shimraa lieing on the ground defeated, Revan aids Kun take down DN Luke. [/B]

Yo Deception, Faunus pretty much explained to you what I was trying to say. Simply, you can't just assume they know about the Vong, because well, they didn't. And here come my rebuttal for zephiel..

Shimrra could take many jedi at a time, and Revan was physically weaker than Shimrra. You're downplaying facts here, that the supreme overlord was indeed VERY powerful and is the most physically powerful combatant in this fight. Everything else is an excuse and justification for your bias so I won't respond. Luke and Shimrra take this,