Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Actually, I do know them, and you obviously don't know what the Scarlet Witch can do! A person who can manipulate probability on your side means that you don't have much of a hope of winning!
Ok then, tell me what Blue Beetle can do? And don't go looking at Wikipedia or any of that junk. Just a plain honest answer. I understand Scarlet Witch's powers perfectly, she doesn't possess the necessary power to strip all of the 60+ UBER powerful members of their power. Show me the highest end feat of Scarlet Witch's power when she was normal and not the "I'm the most powerful person in the world version."
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Marvel outnumbers DC but DC puts every ridiculous powerhouse in their entire universe on their team whereas some of Marvel's popular heavy hitters are missing. (i.e. Silver Surfer)
Sides, you only have one GL there and if this is the entire Avengers vs the entire JLA that means we also have Kyle, Jon, and Guy to worry about in addition to Hal. I understand why you didn't include them but it doesn't matter. JLA is flat out too powerful.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
you really think that SW would be able to take away the powers of one of the Quintessence?
I hope not! She seems to always have trouble dealing with the X-Men when she's a member of the Brotherhood let alone this extremely uber powerful JLA team. Altering probability doesn't even mean that what she wants to happen will happen. She ALTERS probability. She doesn't COMMAND it. He just likes Marvel better and he wanted to think of a quick and easy way for them to win without actually thinking about it. No offense Thunderstrike, but that's what it sounds like.
1. Wanda's hex abilities are nearly limitless, basically to what she herself wants to do with them. Her powers are basically a deus ex machina at her command.
Basically like every other mage in existance.
Like Zatanna for example, who simply says anything backwards and it happens.
But could Zatanna, or Wanda force their power over Phantom Stranger? Or the group entirely? Probably not.
He's vastly more powerful and more knowledged than both of them. And they are very numbered, powerful and crafty.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
1. Wanda's hex abilities are nearly limitless, basically to what she herself wants to do with them. Her powers are basically a deus ex machina at her command.
2. Depends on which Beetle.
Ted Kord./ Scarlet Witch plain and simple doesn't possess the necessary power to strip all of the most powerful JLA members. Maybe the "I'm the most powerful version in the world" could, but definitely not a normal non-plot device Scarlet Witch.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
78 to 71Marvel outnumbers DC but DC puts every ridiculous powerhouse in their entire universe on their team whereas some of Marvel's popular heavy hitters are missing. (i.e. Silver Surfer)
Sides, you only have one GL there and if this is the entire Avengers vs the entire JLA that means we also have Kyle, Jon, and Guy to worry about in addition to Hal. I understand why you didn't include them but it doesn't matter. JLA is flat out too powerful.
Yeah, you understand I didn't want to make it a curbstomp. 😉
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Ted Kord was more of an inventor than anything. Either way, Marvel has the trump card of Excalibur, and Wanda's reality altering and Hex magic.Here's my question? Why on earth did you start this thread unless you just wanted to prove to everyone that DC has a bunch of uber characters?
Because:
1) I find that it's pretty close and it would be a tough battle.
2) I was curious as to what other people thought.
The fight would not depend on 2 people. It would be a combined effort with only a couple of people standing in the end. Just saying that Scarlet Witch's powers would trump everyone else's powers is (I'm sorry to say) ignorant. Like Juntai said before, Zatanna basically has the same power as Scarlet Witch. She can say something backwards and make something happen. Scarlet Witch can only ALTER probablity, she can't COMMAND it. What she wants to happen isn't even necessarily going to happen anyway regardless of if it would trump their powers or not. Scarlet Witch is definitely not the deciding factor in this fight. By your logic, the NORMAL Scarlet Witch could remove Galactus's powers from him and I find that quite laughable.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
There are limits, but even if you're basically taking her reality altering abilities away, which is HALF OF HER ABILITIES, then this is just bunk. This just looks more like a way to say DC is better than Marvel, which is just dumb.
I'm not saying that at all. ❌ I'm just saying that this is the NORMAL version of Scarlet Witch. She is still a factor in the fight, just not as big as you were making her out to be. IMO, this would be a LONG and hard fought battle.
Well, I would definately say Excalibur is the ace in the sleeve. I think Marvel could pull this out with the numbers they have, and having luck on your side is a great weapon to have. I noticed you made it no prep though, mostly because most of the time the Avengers have more mind power than they do muscle.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Well, I would definately say Excalibur is the ace in the sleeve. I think Marvel could pull this out with the numbers they have, and having luck on your side is a great weapon to have. I noticed you made it no prep though, mostly because most of the time the Avengers have more mind power than they do muscle.
I agree that the Avengers have their advantages as well as the JLA. This is a pretty close battle.