Well, human rights are still a big issue in China. Or rather… the lack of them. Force and coercion is not the way when it comes to China, in that regards Ush is right, diplomacy and trade is a better option.
However… That the “free” press does not salute the woman’s attempt at using her rights and pointing out violations against human rights is down-right scary!
And the idea that a protester should toss bio-chemical weapons around, killing innocent bystanders to get her point across is, quite frankly, absurd. 🙄
Originally posted by The Omega
And the idea that a protester should toss bio-chemical weapons around, killing innocent bystanders to get her point across is, quite frankly, absurd. 🙄
not only that, but the same weak lameass excuse can be used to silence any protestor anywhere. when in doubt, and at a total loss of reason to support their lords and masters, the right will tend to bring fear into the argument. "WELL!!! she chould have shoved a nuclear bomb up her ass and snuck it into the press conference....or what if she had superpowers like laser beam eyes and used those powers for evil? what then, huh?"
Misconception be damned. She is a person, capable of speaking to the rest of the world. So, she should be allowed, in teh "free world". Plain and simple...she was a person who was not allowed her rights. I guess the president is more allowed such rights. Bullshit. when the protestor is carted off in a paddy wagon, there are no more rights.
Freedom is not subjective...as opposed to others perspective.
PVS> “not only that, but the same weak lameass excuse can be used to silence any protestor anywhere.”
Exactly. Terror, or rather the FEAR of terror is slowly but surely being abused greatly by governments around the world to infringe of liberties. The Falun Gong, as far as I know, is a kind of Buddhist sub-group, and Buddishts, to the best of my knowledge, are among the most peaceful people on Earth.
I’m sometimes reminded of a scene from “Revenge of the Sith”, where Palpatine proclaims an Empire, and the senate hails him while Amidala whispers “So, this is how freedom dies. To standing applause” (or something along those lines).
“when in doubt, and at a total loss of reason to support their lords and masters, the right will tend to bring fear into the argument.”
Should be turned around. Why didn’t the Bush-administration do something about the report on Al-Queda in the summer of 2001. The COULD’ve planned do commit terror…
Oh, well.
it's a relevant quote from a fictional story, but none the less frighteningly true. liberty really does die with thunderous applause, and dictators dont take power by force alone. they are embraced and adored by the very people they seek to oppress....unless of coarse in recent history, as was the case with hussein backed by western super powers, he was able to take over through force alone.
(not the force mind you)
Originally posted by The Omega
PVS> “not only that, but the same weak lameass excuse can be used to silence any protestor anywhere.”
Exactly. Terror, or rather the FEAR of terror is slowly but surely being abused greatly by governments around the world to infringe of liberties. The Falun Gong, as far as I know, is a kind of Buddhist sub-group, and Buddishts, to the best of my knowledge, are among the most peaceful people on Earth.
The Falun Gong is actually pretty discriminatory, regarding homosexuality as disgracful, etc.
The fear of it is that they practice meditation and excerises in groups, and the Chinese government is afraid of anyone who can organize their followers into an effective army.
PVS> Well, Hitler, Mussolini and other dictators were welcomed at the time the took power. Many modern dictators do indeed stay in power through western support, such as is the case many African countries.
And the West does not seem to mind supporting rebels, if the West disagrees with elected governments...
(No, not THAT Force... )
Arachnoidfreak> "The Falun Gong is actually pretty discriminatory, regarding homosexuality as disgracful, etc."
What religion does NOT have an issue with homosexuals? Come to think of it, shouldn't that make said religions unconstitutional?? Hm, no, I don't even think nazi's are outlawed here in DK... Although we do have a section in the constitution against racism and slander etc. ...