Originally posted by emporerpants
so we're using the whole stalemating galactus thing now? you thing thats resonable? so you think that hulk > galactus then battlehammer?
no and I think basing one fight as the norm is rediculous. Like your doing.
And the writter even said sentry was not using his full potential.
because, for one, statlemating galactus is total bullshit. you know that. also, breaking something thats unbreakable? the only reason anything is stated to be unbreakable is so that someone can break it and look tough. plenty of people have broken "unbreakable" things. is it a decent feat for sentry? sure. is it a testament to him being some uuber unstopable guy? ask hulk.
and for a guy that can supposedly beat most of the marvel heros using only a fraction of his power, he sure seemed to be having trouble with ultron...maybe he should have used another fraction.
it also seems to me that someone of such incredible power should have perhaps been able to do something more about that helicarrier...but oh well, he stalemated galcactus right?
one more thing, he was involved in civil war right? what, exactly, did he do in it? don't' get me wrong, sentry is very powerful, i think he's a decent character. he's just not this all powerful be all and end all of superheros. do i think he could take glads? maybe. it would be a good fight that i'd love to see.
thats just it, they don't know powerful they want him to be. they have come out and said that hulk > sentry though, for the most part. i think putting him at around glad's range is acceptable. in my post i was simply taking issue with battlehammer claiming that i was using only one fight to base my opinion.
Originally posted by emporerpants
i'm curious battlehammer, what do you think of the whole helicarrier and ultorn fiasco that sentry was involved in?
I'm not BattleHammer, but i'd like to comment anyways. The helicarrier feat? Well, everybody and their brother uses this as Sentrys low spot. I still think he was trying to save everybodys life in the helicarrier by attempting a soft landing. I cant say this for sure. Nobody except Bendis can explain it. Maybe Sentry was weakened from his fight with Ultron? Cant say for sure. I would think he could lift a helicarrier though. Have you ever read his mini-series when he opens the vault door to the room he supposedly keeps the Void in? That thing must have weighed however many tons and he opened it with one arm as effortlessly as one of us would open a cupboard door. Something doesnt sit right with the helicarrier ordeal.
As for Ultron. Can I ask you why you would think Ultron is a pushover? Around this forum, it appears as if everybody thinks any hero should be able to beat Ultron, yet this character has a long history of being a team wrecker. I'm talking teams with Thor, Iron Man, Vision, etc,,,. Heavy hitters! This new version of Ultron also appears to be beyond physical harm as the Sentry (fighting her solo by the way as the other Avengers were humbled) caved her head in a couple different times and snapped her neck, but she shook that off like it was nothing. It just kills me that people use Ultron as a low feat. Like they've never read any books with Ultron in them before. Oh well, i'll never get over that.
(Sentry is being set up for failure again by Bendis in Mighty Avengers #6. He rips Ultrons head off, but Ares had injected her with a virus so i'm sure this will be used as a low feat also.)
the thing tkitna, is sentry is really as powerful as battlehammer claims, he shouldn't have had a problem with ANY of that stuff. the point is, as superior tech said, he's just to inconsistent. despite his low showings i still think he as a 50/50 shot with glads. maybe more. i need to see more from him though, consitently, if i'm going to give him better odds.
Originally posted by emporerpants
the thing tkitna, is sentry is really as powerful as battlehammer claims, he shouldn't have had a problem with ANY of that stuff. the point is, as superior tech said, he's just to inconsistent. despite his low showings i still think he as a 50/50 shot with glads. maybe more. i need to see more from him though, consitently, if i'm going to give him better odds.
Inconsistent is right, but who's fault is that? Its Marvel and the writers. My question is, why wouldnt you take the characters high feats as examples? He supposedly had trouble with a helicarrier, but yet was shattering planets fighting Genis. He caught a bullet before it could hit somebody in the head from point blank range, he flew to the sun and back in mere moments, dismantled numerous bombs in a flash, flew across the world and defused a problem before somebody could even use the bathroom, but yet didnt use any speed while fighting the Hulk.
He was displayed as being so powerful that when he had a report of the Wendigo being on the loose, he didnt even bother and sent his damn dog instead.
I suppose it helps if your name is on the front cover of the book (WWH for instance) and the writers can come up with a happy medium and understanding of the character. Hopefully in time.
oh i don't know battlehammer, that whole thing about seriously using that bs line about stalemating galactus in a debate maybe?
and tkitna, i also hope that marvel starts writing sentry more consitently. i like the character and hope he starts getting some more respect. the thing is, as of right now he is too inconsistent to properly gauge. i think putting him at or slightly above glads is pretty fair, considering that this is a non jobbing glads.