Imperiex vs Abraxas

Started by Mr Master4 pages
Originally posted by Big Sexy
That ties in nicely with the whole idea of Galactus being essential to the universe. Once he dies, this leads to Abraxus released and the destruction of the multiverse.

That's right.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Good stuff. Thanks for the time, I know how time consuming bringing scans for proof of things can be.

Still doesn't quite equate to universe destroying power, it comes across as Doom adjusting to what to him would be near infinite power (considering their respective levels.)

A similar thing happened to Superman after combining with Kismet to battle Imperiex.

Mr. Master, do you have any material on Abraxas himself pulling any high end feats on panel? Even if not, thanks anyway.

I don't know if he was able to Destroy the universe, it never got into that.

But he did say, "my least whim alters the world around me". And from the scans you can tell he's one with the universe, what that means in terms of exercising power I'm not sure.

But at one point Doom says, his only challenge now in the whole universe is the Beyonder himself.

And it did take the Beyonder two pages to defeat him, lol.

In the Darkseid at full power vs Exitar thread, I threw all the major feats from his(Abraxas)brief existence.

It's towards the end of the thread, wouldn't want to do it all over again.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
They wouldn't even make sense. He can destroy a universe, yet he needs to eat said planets from the universe to survive.

His best battle with Tyrant only destroyed galaxies, and thats a far cry from universe destroying power.

If Imperiex can destroy a universe, then he would probably take Galactus out if Galactus has no prep.

Remember in order for Galactus to reach "FULL" power, he must absorb his ship, this takes a bit of time.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know if he was able to Destroy the universe, it never got into that.

But he did say, "my least whim alters the world around me". And from the scans you can tell he's one with the universe, what that means in terms of exercising power I'm not sure.

But at one point Doom says, his only challenge now in the whole universe is the Beyonder himself.

And it did take the Beyonder two pages to defeat him, lol.

In the Darkseid at full power vs Exitar thread, I threw all the major feats from his(Abraxas)brief existence.

It's towards the end of the thread, wouldn't want to do it all over again.

I remember that fight with Beyonder...poor Doom. 😆

It would make sense that if Big G can destroy galaxies in a fight, that Doom would feel that he can alter everything around him. Even to the most brilliant open minds, that's a lot of power to comprehend. Especially with matter manipulation. (I would have had a field day myself.) 😄

here is some of my Imperiex material where he is the big bang.
Infinity x Infinity. Hope this helps.

But the whole big bang thing, accorfing to wiki (which I know many times is unreliable) he needed to destroy the earth for this to even happen. Not sure if that means he himself has the capability. I am signing off now though because its late.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
But the whole big bang thing, accorfing to wiki (which I know many times is unreliable) he needed to destroy the earth for this to even happen. Not sure if that means he himself has the capability. I am signing off now though because its late.

It happened without the Earth being destroyed. That was all under his direct power.

Earth was just basically the "prime spot" the nexus between all realities.(Besides...without that hitch, there wouldn't have been a story)
As seen in the scans though, he did just fine without Earth there.

I'm careful with Wiki. That's why I own the issues. I've learned that forum rumors and net research is off or wrong a lot of the time.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
here is some of my Imperiex material where he is the big bang.
Infinity x Infinity. Hope this helps.

Why if you use imageshack can you see the jpg before it's clicked, when I use imageshack and I post a link to a jpg, all you see is the link until you click it.

And I've never known how to post multiple pictures at the same time, do tell please.

Love the scans though, pretty ill.

It took the nullifier destroying the whole multiverse to just get rid of Abraxas. Just higher in the food chain.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Why if you use imageshack can you see the jpg before it's clicked, when I use imageshack and I post a link to a jpg, all you see is the link until you click it.

And I've never known how to post multiple pictures at the same time, do tell please.

Love the scans though, pretty ill.

Send me a pm and I'll show you how to do that once I'm clocked out from work.

if galactus went crazy im pretty sure nobady would stop him. if he was evil like imperiex, he would kill everything. just because he doesnt destroy things, doesnt mean imperiex is more powerful. the guy has hunger, leave him alone.

The whole idea of Abraxas sounds stupid at first glance. After the previous universe's Eternity rescued Galan from being incinerated along with the rest of the previous universe, he was in a sort of embryonic stasis for millions of years. The transformation to Galactus took that long. So what protected the universe from Abraxas when there was no Big G? If he's truly multiversal then surely he was around at the time of our universes Big Bang and would've posed a major threat until Galactus was ready to assume his place in the cosmic order of things.

Originally posted by Crease
The whole idea of Abraxas sounds stupid at first glance. After the previous universe's Eternity rescued Galan from being incinerated along with the rest of the previous universe, he was in a sort of embryonic stasis for millions of years. The transformation to Galactus took that long. So what protected the universe from Abraxas when there was no Big G? If he's truly multiversal then surely he was around at the time of our universes Big Bang and would've posed a major threat until Galactus was ready to assume his place in the cosmic order of things.

Abraxas is the aspect of Galactus's WILL to destroy in order to survive.

He can only manifest himself if one of the Galactus's in the Multiverse dies.

This is because he's IMPRISONED with in Galactus.

So Abraxas is pretty much Galans will to live come to fruition?? And taken to an extreme??

Sometimes, when i think i can't love the character more, i learn something new and i wanna hug Kirby for creating the guy........................................No homo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Abraxas is the aspect of Galactus's WILL to destroy in order to survive.

He can only manifest himself if one of the Galactus's in the Multiverse dies.

This is because he's IMPRISONED with in Galactus.

Ok...So in the Marvel multiverse, all existing universes/realities in the multiverse were born simultaneously then? Because for Abraxas to be imprisoned inside of Galactus that would mean all versions of Big G were born simultaneously, right?

Sorry if it seems like I'm just being annoying. I wasn't collecting/reading comics when Abraxas appeared and am just trying to get some background on him and his function.

Originally posted by Crease
Ok...So in the Marvel multiverse, all existing universes/realities in the multiverse were born simultaneously then? Because for Abraxas to be imprisoned inside of Galactus that would mean all versions of Big G were born simultaneously, right?

Sorry if it seems like I'm just being annoying. I wasn't collecting/reading comics when Abraxas appeared and am just trying to get some background on him and his function.

Your cool dude, it's great to have that thirst for comic book knowledge, lol.

Multi-Eternity/Infinity(which is the Multiverse or a multitude of Eternities & Infinities)was created in the beginning of everything.

Multi(Order and Chaos)are the balance of the Multiverse.

Galactus is the balance between Order and Chaos

Abraxas is the Aspect of Galactus's his WILL to destroy

Both Galactus and Abraxas are born from the heart of Eternity and Infinity.

So yes, there is a pattern in the timeline of each Concepts creation but it all falls in the necessary order.

Like first you have Eternity(Time)then Infinity(Space)then Order & Chaos followed by the next most important abstract to next, and so on and on.

Hope this was helpful.

btu what about the elders, they were in the previos universe, when did they get to the 616 universe.

Originally posted by bigbran
btu what about the elders, they were in the previos universe, when did they get to the 616 universe.

That Universe ended and Eternity was created, then multiple Eternities and finally Multi-Eternity who is ALL Eternities rolled into one.

Then Imperiex would be no match for Abraxus.

or even galactus. so would abrax be like evil galactus?