Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Started by Capt_Fantastic19 pages

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I have never seen a cop stop traffic in any regards to a funeral.

A Funeral is private. It is not open to intruders or those who aim to disturb its peace.

Protestors mingling with family members? Where the hell are you getting this from ? No sh*t they aren't....they are speaking out Hate against the currently deceased, interupting the Funeral itself with protests, disturbing the peace the family deserves, all because they don't like America's military?

Those fkn cowards, why don't those a**holes grow a backbone and protest on MILITARY camps...I'd love to see those Gay-Bashing, Bible thumping, family-created Church turds protest there !

I said you act as though the protestors, well...the bigots, are standing next to the gravesite with the family. They're not. And if you've never seen cops stop traffic for a funeral, then maybe you haven't been to many funerals...or been driving in your car when one passed.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's Illegal to Disturb the Peace. It's illegal to promote Hate Speech in the event where an immediate danger is likely (such as riot, etc.). It's illegal to trespass (and let's hope they don't attempt that next), and it's illegal to harass funeral goers by protesting right in front of the funeral buildings (I'd just bet my bottom dollar the funeral attendees can hear the entire protests even from that distance)

It is very Lawful for Congress to protect Privacy from Hatred, and Peace from Instigation ✅

It's not the same as disturbing the peace.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
To protest in front of funeral homes is a violation of privacy....funerals are not public display..they are private ceremonies, and if the protests interupt those ceremonies than there is a huge violation.

There is no right to public privacy recognized in American law. Since the protests in question are taking place on public property in front of national cemetaries, there is no invasion of privacy taking place.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But to do an Anti-Military protest on FUNERAL GROUNDS is fkn absurd....why don't those cowards protest on Military grounds ?

This group is not protesting on the grounds of a private cemetary, they are protesting on public property directly in front of it.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's illegal to promote Hate Speech in the event where an immediate danger is likely (such as riot, etc.).

No, it is not. Hate speech is protected by the First Amendment. There are no laws restricting hate speech in public.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
...and it's illegal to harass funeral goers by protesting right in front of the funeral buildings (I'd just bet my bottom dollar the funeral attendees can hear the entire protests even from that distance).

According to the "Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act," the constitutionality of which is being challenged in court.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It is very Lawful for Congress to protect Privacy from Hatred, and Peace from Instigation ✅

No, it is not. It is violation of the First Amendment and unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, it is not. Hate speech is protected by the First Amendment. There are no laws restricting hate speech in public.
No, it is not. It is violation of the First Amendment and unconstitutional.

Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a group of people based on their race, gender, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability. The term covers written as well as oral communication.
Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience.
The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.

Originally posted by CM-Shazam
Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a group of people based on their race, gender, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability. The term covers written as well as oral communication.
Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience.
The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.

What is reposting information that does not address, let alone refute my argument supposed to prove, other than that you do not understand it?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What is reposting information that does not address, let alone refute my argument supposed to prove, other than that you do not understand it?

I was just joking because I said that you were posting the same thing. 😛

That is just terrible and more hate from their sons and daughters

They showed up in the Tyra Banks show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-xgvTnxPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ24gX_dtpE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-in16plR9Jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x176aI15Y_0

People need to stop giving the Phelps airtime, it's attention they are after. Ignore them and they'll fade into oblivion.

Originally posted by Robtard
People need to stop giving the Phelps airtime, it's attention they are after. Ignore them and they'll fade into oblivion.
It all started in the news. 🙄

The producers have no sence at all of who they interview. But really, Tyra > Shirley Phelps

Originally posted by JacopeX
It all started in the news. 🙄

The producers have no sence at all of who they interview. But really, Tyra > Shirley Phelps

You do realize that the "news" is airtime right? 🙄

The producers do have a say who the host/hostess of the show they produce does interview actually.

"thank god for dead soldiers?" are these people serious?

Yes they are. More right-wing literalists.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yes they are. More right-wing literalists.

Uh, no.

More like, "Oh, look, an anti-gay Christian fundamentalist sect. How lovely."

to be fair, they consider themselves christian and you/the majority to be antichristian. laughable i know. however why is it that everytime i parallel these people to christianity as ultra-wacko-fundamentalist terrorism is to islam, noboby seems to grasp it?

(yes i think 'ultra-wacko-fundamentalist terrorism' is more accurate than 'islamic fascism'😉

Originally posted by PVS
however why is it that everytime i parallel these people to christianity as ultra-wacko-fundamentalist terrorism is to islam, noboby seems to grasp it?

Because people are dense.

Originally posted by PVS
to be fair, they consider themselves christian and you/the majority to be antichristian. laughable i know. however why is it that everytime i parallel these people to christianity as ultra-wacko-fundamentalist terrorism is to islam, noboby seems to grasp it?

(yes i think 'ultra-wacko-fundamentalist terrorism' is more accurate than 'islamic fascism'😉

See the "Who Is a Christian?" thread.

"Pastor Ordered To Pay Up" Associated Press

Baltimore, Maryland—A Kansas church has been ordered to pay $3,150 for costs and fees associated with a summons and complaint filed by the father of a Marine whose funeral was picketed by the extremist group.

Albert Snyder, of York, Pa., is suing the Rev. Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist Church after church members demonstrated at the funeral of Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, of Westminster, and posted pictures of the protest on their Web site.

Lance Snyder was killed in Iraq in March. Members of the Topeka church claim U.S. soldiers are killed as God's punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality.

His father's federal lawsuit, filed June 5, alleges church members violated the family's right to privacy and defamed the Marine and his family at the funeral and on the church's Web site.

Phelps and the church refused to grant a waiver in the serving of summonses in connection with the federal lawsuit, making the church liable for those costs.

Court documents say the church has 30 days to make the payment to Snyder.

add a couple of zeros on that fee and i'll call it fair

Ohhh, snap.

Turn it around against anti-war protestors, though, and you'll likely hear screams about Bush, 1984, and the USA PATRIOT Act. Not to mention the e'er-present "fascism" and "Nazi regime."

wait, how is violating a person's funeral (not soldier specifically, mind you) the same as protesting a war?

did happy hour start up a bit early?