Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
But he's not going to pick up Batman's heartbeat.JLA Issue #1
Superman: "Strange. I didn't hear your heartbeat."
Batman: "Gadget worked."Who, by the way, will sonically destroy Dare Devil. Then its Captain America versus Punisher and Batman, who will diguise himself as Dare Devil, and then sonically impair Captain America for Punisher to wreck him.
Batman pulling the sonic may or may not happen. If he fights Cap, its not likely hed pull it. If we're counting crossovers here, Daredevil would know Bats may pull a sonic and hed most likely fight Punisher anyways considering their history together. No matter who Pun faces, he loses. He just doesnt have enough ammo to be effective.
Originally posted by King KAMOut of practice? Frank can beat nearly any human h2h...he has taken on dd, beat up bullseye, and taken on peak level humans, one hitman (shown on the pun respect thread) pun took on himself h2h...not saying he would beat cap, but cap would know he was in a fight...
no hes not, hes out of practice, and nowhere near cap in h2h.....thats just fuggin rediculous
Originally posted by jgiant
Out of practice? Frank can beat nearly any human h2h...he has taken on dd, beat up bullseye, and taken on peak level humans, one hitman (shown on the pun respect thread) pun took on himself h2h...not saying he would beat cap, but cap would know he was in a fight...
I agree. But you gotta admit that hes not quite on their level skill wise. Pun is probably the toughest and will last a while, but thats only until Cap or DD really decides to end the fight quickly.
Originally posted by braz
DD and the Cap are obviously the physical superiors, but Bats n Punisher have more equipment with them like high-tech gadgets and conventional weapons which would give them the edge.
More equipment, but noting that would be effective save for the sonics IF Bats uses it. Bats and Pun dont have and edge here. The sonic is what allows them to even contend considering Bats will be fighting both Cap and DD alone. Punisher shoots and hits nothing. Then he gets whooped by DD.
Originally posted by jrodslam
More equipment, but noting that would be effective save for the sonics IF Bats uses it. Bats and Pun dont have and edge here. The sonic is what allows them to even contend considering Bats will be fighting both Cap and DD alone. Punisher shoots and hits nothing. Then he gets whooped by DD.
idunno, either way it'd be a close fight.
I think everyone is counting Castle out to soon, not only can he contend with any of the other three in H2H combat, but he has also shown the ability to shoot the likes of Daredevil and Spider-man. Not to mention the ability to knock caps sheild out of the air and blow DD billy clubs in half after they have been thrown. Not to mention if they are in goofy bloodlust mode he is likely to just let Bats distract them while goes to the nearest convinience store and makes a bomb that takes out the entire neighborhood.
I think that this fight should potentially go to Batman and the Punisher. In my opinion, the best match-ups would be to put Batman against Captain America and to put Punisher up against Daredevil. I think that eventually, Batman would put Captain down via gadgets. Punisher and Daredevil would be a great fight and I don't think many people realize this. I realize that Daredevil was trained by stick and he knows martial arts, blah blah blah... anyways, the Punisher has a lot more experience than Daredevil. He's had military training for years. In comics, Punisher and Daredevil have had many very good fights. Punisher has won some, and Daredevil has won some. I believe that Daredevil would more than likely win the majority in straight up h2h, but with all of Punisher's weapons, I don't see Daredevil winning that much of the time. Yes, I realize that Daredevil is a master at dodging bullets, and does so with ease, but in this fight, the Punisher has a grenade launcher. I don't see Daredevil dodging grenades all day long at least not the nearby explosion. He may dodge the initial contact from the grenades, but he would still be affected by the explosion afterward. This would be a good fight but I think that Batman could take Cap out 8/10 via the gadgets, and the Punisher and Daredevil fight would last a good long while. I think that Batman could put down Captain before Daredevil could put down Frank. From there, Batman and Frank could easily take him via double-teaming him. Punisher and Batman take this fight 7/10.
Honestly, telling people that Daredevil can easily whip Castle... I am friggin' offended that you would rate a second-rate Spider-man that high.How can you say that there is not enough ammo! Punisher needs ten bullets for DD and thirty for Cap.DD CANNOT DODGE BULLETS!Here is some info on Punisher!
The Punisher is a thoroughly seasoned combat veteran of exceptional skills. A former U.S. Marine Captain with a distinguished combat record, Castle underwent sniper and recon training while in the Corps.He also received SEAL (Sea, Air, Land), UDT (Underwater Demolition Team), and LRRP (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol)training.
Frank is well-versed in the arts of warfare and hand-to-hand combat,his styles of choice being Ninjutsu,Shorin-Ryu,Hwarangdo and Chin Na,as well as unarmed combat training received in the military.He is an exceptional knife fighter who carries up to 3 or 4 different types of edged weapons.
