Originally posted by Deadpool14
if your are saying Wild Child is not a skilled fighter because he is feral, you are wrong. Look at Wolverine when he was feral.
what I ment to say was this. feral rage or furry is a lot diffrent then a beserker rage.
a beserker rage is what some fighter can go into that allow them to retain all there fighting skill and abilties but amp all there abilites to max.
it a little more complicated that that, but I don't feel like explaining it all.
a feral rage is much diffrent. feral rage is just when the animal is out the human side totaly takes a back seat and they retain only the need to survive. they fight extremely savage but it more or less not very skilled attacks.
wolverine was not in a feral rage when he beat shang-chi
i see what you are saying. But in mutant genesis Wolverine almost killed Magneto by going into berserker fury, and Magneto wasn't even that much of a threat at the time. it was totally an unecessary attack, the beast was acting on that one. wolverine went feral after having his adamantium removed from his bones by Mags and being driven on the verge of insanity by that idiot Genesis. this was conveyed by his primitive look and degenerated intelligence.
I agree that beserker fury makes a fighter more deadly, but being feral doesn't necessarily mean all of their skills go away. it just degenerates them alot.
and yes it would take wolverine in his prime to beat the Master of Kungfu
Originally posted by Deadpool14
i see what you are saying. But in mutant genesis Wolverine almost killed Magneto by going into berserker fury, and Magneto wasn't even that much of a threat at the time. it was totally an unecessary attack, the beast was acting on that one. wolverine went feral after having his adamantium removed from his bones by Mags, conveyed by his primitive look and degenerated intelligence.I agree that beserker fury makes a fighter more deadly, but being feral doesn't necessarily mean all of their skills go away. it just degenerates them alot.
and yes it would take wolverine in his prime to beat the Master of Kungfu
feral rage is a lot diffrent and not all his fighting skill are gone, but they are lessioned and it kinda like goign beserker but with good amount of bad side effects.
also it not the feral part thats bad wolevrine feral can bejust as smart as wolverine normal at times, but it the feral rage which is no were near as good as beserker.
also when wolverine beat shang-chi he was in niether mode.
Originally posted by capt it up
oh in beserker the beast does act but it diffrent he retains all his fighting skills but only thinks to kill his opponet.feral rage is a lot diffrent and not all his fighting skill are gone, but they are lessioned and it kinda like goign beserker but with good amount of bad side effects.
also it not the feral part thats bad wolevrine feral can bejust as smart as wolverine normal at times, but it the feral rage which is no were near as good as beserker.also when wolverine beat shang-chi he was in niether mode.
Then we agree 😎
Originally posted by King_Mungi
because Wendigo was severly weakened as spears hurting him, same with Sasquatch? come on. While on the other hand it was stated multiple times in Infinity War they are exact copies of their hosts. As their copies even beat the orginial copies. Even a most experienced fighter can be taken out in one hit as the UFC shows us time and time again.Like I said that story was poorly written as Sasquatch easily ko'ed Wolverine in 2 hits and then annihilated him another time. Once again wooden spears? guy takes tank blasts and is fine.
Like I said I'm not saying Wild Child wins or loses, but he is by far not outclassed here.
No he used his head, as he didn't need to fight him. It wasn't a what if as it was a fairly important marvel cross over. As I mentioned earlier Wild Child has gone up against worse and wasn't afraid. He has faced death before and wasn't afraid. He was about to be killed many times, but he wasn't afraid. As I said this is non-jobbing Wild Child as that was completly out of character and the writer forgot Wild Child has a healing factor. Alpha Flight is the purest unmutalitated form of Weapon Omega. He's a very smart fighter, I just posted the Diablo fight in the respect thread. I'll get to more tommorow.
Wild Child has caught Aurora and Northstar on multiple occasions. Even landed a serious hit on her ripping her chest open. Wild Child has fought Sabertooth, Wolverine, Omerta, Flagstone, Wyre, Nemesis, Weapon X (Kane). He even fought all of Beta Flight w/Northstar and won and that was before he became Weapon Omega. I'll post that fight tommorow.
So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.
Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?
He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.
How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.
When has he fought Sabertooth?
How can he not be outclassed?
Isn't Sabertooth stronger?
Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?
You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.
You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.
Originally posted by Warmonger
So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?
He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.
How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.
When has he fought Sabertooth?
How can he not be outclassed?
Isn't Sabertooth stronger?
Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?
You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.
You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.
Originally posted by capt it up
hulkd cna run at high speed true, but hulks agility and reflex are that of a normal persons. when hitting a person it reflex that truely matters and hand speed and in soem cases agility. wild child beats hulk in those ways
i agree. hulk is just brute strength that hasn't been fine tuned. Omega is just a really sharp Weapon
Originally posted by Warmonger
So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?
He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.
No it was stated in Weapon X he was actually afraid of Creed...literally. He cowered like a dog when he came near, which is out of character.
How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.
When has he fought Sabertooth?
How can he not be outclassed?
Isn't Sabertooth stronger?
Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?
You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.
You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.
Well he has hit them a few times, one Aurora was being cocky, and the rest I will post in the respect thread tommorow. You said Hulk couldn't be calmed down by light but now I remember Dazzler did it to him transforming him back into Banner in her mini. Hey people claim Wolverine tagging Northstar is fine, why not Wild Child?
He countered a blow from behind and manuevered it into a finisher. I will show his hand-to-hand skills against Wyre tommorow....or tommorowish.
Weapon X, as vampire Wild Child and AoA.
Adamintium lowers your healing factor, and no. If he takes more hits he is still going to feel it adamintium skelton or not.
Because Sabertooth doesn't have a major advantage. Wild Child written correctly is one of the best fighters stated in Alpha Flight. That's why I picked Weapon Omega.
Physically most likely, however, Wild Child has fought people who are physically stronger than him before. As I mentioned when he battled with Alpha Flight.
Hit them three seperate times, Aurora once Northstar twice. As does Weapon Omega. Here are the handbook entry, but Wild Child has shown superhuman strength as well other than that their spot on
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/29/th_sabretoothback.jpg
2. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/31/thu_wildback.jpg
Omerta is, Daredevil clone is, Flagstone is as he was trained by Puck, Wyre is.
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Deadpool14 looks like your a new fan of Weapon Omega from your avatar. 🙂
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EDIT: Sorry War for the brief post, but this is a 2am just got home from the bar and I'm tired reply.
