where do dinosaurs and cavemen fit into the bible, or does it?

Started by Alliance14 pages

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
If I was God I'd have left the dinosuars, then when Adam and Eve ate the fruit kicked them out of the Garden and waited to see how long they'd last before they got eaten.

Yes, it's true, I'd be a loving, just God that liked dinosaurs more then people.

Reminds me of the FedEx commercia where the guy gets fired and stomped on 😂 I love that.

Hey guys, I'm going to try to answer some of these questions and give some of my views.

CAVEMEN - when we hear cavemen, we automatically think of an early version of man that wasn't very intelligent like we have seen in cartoons and such since we were kids. Caves have been a common place to live throughout history and in Austrailia there is a town where a lot of people still live in caves due to the high heat... they even have TV in their caves. I am a fomer U.S. Army Infantryman, and I spent a lot of time in the middle east. That whole area has so many mountains and so many caves, and until you have experienced the heat in that part of the world I don't think you can understand how good living in a cave could sound. The Bible mentions people living in caves in many places, the first spot I know of is in Genesis 19:13... and other instances such as where David lived in a cave to hide from Saul. Somewhere in this thread somebody asked something along the lines of cavemen were obviously not as intelligent as we are today because they didn't have the things we do today. A lot of the artwork in caves and tools and methods proved they were intelligent, they just had to start from ground zero... why didn't we have some of the things we have today thirty years ago? Were we not as intelligent 30 years ago? Of course we were, we were developing new technology that led to things we have today. "Cavemen" invented the wheel right? Didn't some of that technology eventually go into the car you drive? They were starting at a time with very little "technology", so things they developed seem primitive, when really, some things were very clever and prove how intelligent they were.

DINOSAURS - my views of the Dinosaur. We all know they existed, we've got the bones all over the place. Did man coexist with them? If you believe the Bible they did. What happened to them? The best view I've heard and the one I believe as well... when God flooded the earth, Noah was to take 2 of every animal on board so they could repopulate the earth (if you read the account, he took more than two of many animals for other uses) A little aside, I think carbon dating is very flawed, most studies prove it's very flawed and I don't buy the timelines given by these scientists. But almost every scientist in the field, whether they believe the age of the earth according to carbon data, agree that there was a massive flood and that flood caused drastic climate changes on the earth. I believe that in God's amazing plan, Dinosaurs no longer had a place and that they weren't able to survive due to a combination of not being able to live in the new climate and possibly due to the lack of food... imagine how little there would be to eat for something that size when almost every animal is dead and so much of the vegetation has been destroyed.

Guys, the basis of Christianity is Faith. There are many things on both sides of the spectrum, creation vs. evolution vs. well... won't even go into scientology, things that neither group has been able to prove and probably never will be able to. So whatever you believe, you are believing in faith. Gods word has been proven in so many ways, google it and look at some of discoveries made that support the Bible's account. He wants us to have faith in Him, to believe he sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to shed His blood as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins... and that He defeated the grave just like he said he would. He has given us a ticket to heaven, all we have to do is believe and ask. I put my faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ... and you might ask me "what if you're wrong". Well, if I'm wrong, I live a good life where I have a purpose and have a fullfilled feeling, die and there is nothing after that, I haven't lost anything. What about the ones who didn't believe, when they die and it turns out they were wrong? Don't be one of them. Every one of you that have posted or read on here, you have had God tug at your heart because you took the time to look into it. I imagine most of you have spent a lot of time battling in your head, trying to find answers to these questions... Satans calling card is confusion, and I bet so many of you are so confused about it all, you get frustrated and angry which keeps you from finding the answers. Don't let Satan win, don't be lazy. You can't afford to risk not finding the answers. I encourage all of you to search, don't just google it... get your butt out of bed, get to a church. Don't sit in the back row daydreaming and bolt for the door as soon as it's over. The Pastor will be there, go up and to talk to him after the service. Say hey preacher, I have so many questions, can you take the time to speak with me. Will he have all the answers? No. He's living on faith too, but I promise you that you will get some answers that could just change your life. Go grab a Bible, I really reccomend an NIV STUDY BIBLE. A Study Bible has explanations for the scriptures at the bottom of every page. It's an invaluable source for understanding what your reading. I pray that all of you find the answers.

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Archaeologists dont use radioactive carbon dating to tell the age of dinosaur bones. IIRC, they use Potassium-Argon. If C-14 dating is as flawed as you say it is, it would have been long abandoned by the archaeologists themselves, long before some fundies found out about it, exaggerate it, and use it against on any scientific encroachment on Bible "truths". Besides, most archaeologist use more than one dating method to date their samples.

Here is something to ask you Pastor . . . . mine hates me 😂. He doesnt want to answer any more of my questions.

Does zombies exist during the time of Jesus?

Matt. 27:50-54.
'And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit . . . . the earth shook and the rocks split. The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs and after Jesus resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.'

I bet if Ash and his boomstick were there, people might mistaken him for the Messiah 😄 .

The quantum mech behind RC14 dating is based on the same theories as CD burners and your cell phones. You trust them right? Its accurate and certianly more accurate than any religious schemes of dating historical objects.

Originally posted by FrazierW19
Guys, the basis of Christianity is Faith. There are many things on both sides of the spectrum, creation vs. evolution vs. well... won't even go into scientology, things that neither group has been able to prove and probably never will be able to. So whatever you believe, you are believing in faith.

Not true. Some of us believe fact, not somehting written in an anonymous book.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
Gods word has been proven in so many ways, google it and look at some of discoveries made that support the Bible's account.

Oh really. FYI, fact almost never suports the bible's views. Thats why religion has had to change so much over history, they're pretty consistantly wrong.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
He wants us to have faith in Him, to believe he sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to shed His blood as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins... and that He defeated the grave just like he said he would. He has given us a ticket to heaven, all we have to do is believe and ask. I put my faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...

Thanks for your opinion. and btw, how do you know your god's true will?
Originally posted by FrazierW19
and you might ask me "what if you're wrong".

Exactly.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
Well, if I'm wrong, I live a good life where I have a purpose and have a fullfilled feeling, die and there is nothing after that, I haven't lost anything. What about the ones who didn't believe, when they die and it turns out they were wrong? Don't be one of them.

Personally, I don't care if you think I'm wrong. I have lived a good life and have purpose and a fulfilled feeling. I'm athiest. Haveing a good life is not exclusive to religion. What happens when you die and your consciousness blinks out of existance, if you could think at that point, imagine how stupid you'd feel living your whole life around what many consider to be false pretenses.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
Every one of you that have posted or read on here, you have had God tug at your heart because you took the time to look into it. I imagine most of you have spent a lot of time battling in your head, trying to find answers to these questions...

Most of mine have been answered and those answers have nto come from any religion. Religous "answers" only seem to undermine its goals.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
Satans calling card is confusion, and I bet so many of you are so confused about it all, you get frustrated and angry which keeps you from finding the answers. Don't let Satan win, don't be lazy.

I know answers, I find them myself. I'd rather be honestly confused than blindly accept an ubstitantiated "truth." Its called bieng honest with yourself and not giving in to false pretenses just because you feel temporarily uncomfortable.
Originally posted by FrazierW19 You can't afford to risk not finding the answers.

You're Christian god is not everyone's answer. If you're actually intellecual, answers should only lead to more questions. Its not a dead end you just accept and become satisfied with.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
I encourage all of you to search, don't just google it... get your butt out of bed, get to a church. Don't sit in the back row daydreaming and bolt for the door as soon as it's over. The Pastor will be there, go up and to talk to him after the service. Say hey preacher, I have so many questions, can you take the time to speak with me. Will he have all the answers? No. He's living on faith too, but I promise you that you will get some answers that could just change your life. Go grab a Bible, I really reccomend an NIV STUDY BIBLE. A Study Bible has explanations for the scriptures at the bottom of every page. It's an invaluable source for understanding what your reading. I pray that all of you find the answers.

No thank you. If you wnat to debate thats fine, but don't waste your time tring to convert people. Its blatnatly offensive and quite frankly wrong. We can make up our own opinions, we don't need you and your dogma to make them for us.

Sorry for the trip, but i ran out of editing time....

I wanted to expand on this:

Originally posted by FrazierW19
Satans calling card is confusion, and I bet so many of you are so confused about it all, you get frustrated and angry which keeps you from finding the answers. Don't let Satan win, don't be lazy.

I know answers, I find them myself. I'd rather be honestly confused than blindly accept an ubstitantiated "truth." Its called bieng honest with yourself and not giving in to false pretenses just because you feel temporarily uncomfortable. The way of blindness is accepting answers to fill in gaps in your soul, no matter how many flaws there may be. The way of enlightement is learning on your own terms who you are, learning waht you are and seeking truth, no matter how long it takes you to get there. "Confusion is the way of the devil" is a ploy made up by religions doctirne to scare those who might doubt the presence of god and the authority of the church into submitting to their every will. There is nothing wrong with having answers. Id rather fill my holes with the concrete of knowledge than the religious sand that crumbles under the slightest of scrutinies. If confusiton is the way of your devil, then your gods way is obedient blindness.

Seems to me the Bible is full of confusion, hence all the denominations....and persecuting each other...

Originally posted by FrazierW19
Guys, the basis of Christianity is Faith. There are many things on both sides of the spectrum, creation vs. evolution vs. well... won't even go into scientology, things that neither group has been able to prove and probably never will be able to. So whatever you believe, you are believing in faith.

Faith cannot distinguish between true and false beliefs - with faith, all beliefs are equal. Mere faith can lead to absolutely any conclusion.
Originally posted by FrazierW19
I put my faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ... and you might ask me "what if you're wrong". Well, if I'm wrong, I live a good life where I have a purpose and have a fullfilled feeling, die and there is nothing after that, I haven't lost anything. What about the ones who didn't believe, when they die and it turns out they were wrong?

If you happen to follow the right religion, you may indeed go to heaven and avoid hell. However, if you choose the wrong religion, you’ ll still go to hell.

The true god might not mind that people don’ t bother believing in it when they use rational reasons.

I wouldn' t consider worshipping a god where a person’ s eternal fate is not being decided upon based on their actions, but merely on their decision to believe.

Don't forget your thoughts........Even thinking things are a sin.........

Originally posted by debbiejo
Don't forget your thoughts........Even thinking things are a sin.........

So, then you and I are doomed!

Cavemen and dinosaurs? Well, wasn't it some caveman who wrote the Old Testament?

Sometimes i swear thinking is a Christian sin.

Originally posted by Alliance
Sometimes i swear thinking is a Christian sin.

I believe it is... 😆

Originally posted by Alliance
Sometimes i swear thinking is a Christian sin.

quote of the week. add any organised relegion in place of Christian though. along with the word 90% of socitial cultures.

Re: where do dinosaurs and cavemen fit into the bible, or does it?

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Im curious about something that I havent found an answer too...maybe there isnt one. I dont know. So I bring it to you....maybe you can help me figure this out or some one can point me ina direction to where I might find the answer....

According to the bible...Adam and Eve were the first people created....course through the history God gets pissed and decides to start over making Noah and his family our ancestors....

so where then does the cavemen and dinosaurs fit in to the picture...we know they existed....

I have not read all of the Bible so maybe I missed a part where they are talked about.

Dinosaurs and cavemen are lies that scientists made to turn us into atheists.

do u have proof of this?? explain........

Didn't cavemen evolve from dinosaurs?

Re: where do dinosaurs and cavemen fit into the bible, or does it?

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Im curious about something that I havent found an answer too...maybe there isnt one. I dont know. So I bring it to you....maybe you can help me figure this out or some one can point me ina direction to where I might find the answer....

According to the bible...Adam and Eve were the first people created....course through the history God gets pissed and decides to start over making Noah and his family our ancestors....

so where then does the cavemen and dinosaurs fit in to the picture...we know they existed....

I have not read all of the Bible so maybe I missed a part where they are talked about.

The bible is wrong, simple.

Re: Re: where do dinosaurs and cavemen fit into the bible, or does it?

Originally posted by Boris
The bible is wrong, simple.

The bible is symbolic; the people who take the bible literally are the ones that are wrong.

Originally posted by Mindship
Didn't cavemen evolve from dinosaurs?

No, they evolved more directly form small mammals that coexisted with dinosoars. But these ancestors did have thier own common ancestor. But there was no direct evolving "from."

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible is symbolic; the people who take the bible literally are the ones that are wrong.
Very true, it is no different than any other set of mythology, its meant to fill in gaps in human perception, serve as a general philosophical guide, and keep the adherents in line.

And our thoughts?..our thoughts...where do they come from?