WoW stamps all over lore just how Archimonde stamps on armies, I think Blizzard should make a "true lore" Warcraft game, another RTS perhaps or something like it that shows us the power of the characters properly, if any of you guys played Supreme commander, that sort of scale would be brilliant for a game of Warcraft RTS set in the early years of Azeroth, i would love to see what happened myself during the war of the ancients and Sargerus battles and the Aspects in true scale.
Originally posted by Becci
You mean things like how Ragnaros slaughters hundreds, perhaps thousands per swing in lore and kills mighty oppositions easily, but is defeated by 40 randoms in gameplay 😛Or Archimonde, who basically defeated one of the mightiest druids in existance without harm and both figurativly and litteraly stomps armies and landscapes but got defeated by 25 randoms in gameplay 😛
Yeah, like that. That just looks stupid. Anyways, Dante being the strongest demonic being in his universe (canon) can probably give a fight to the Archimonde tier demons- not PWN them for majority, of course, they're your typical highest tier demon lord- as per rank, they're equal to Mundus, Dante's dad and Dante himself (though as hybrid he's more powerful than those two, but there's a huge experience gap that isn't fully covered even by Dante's uncanny improvisation ability).
Note that by "give a fight" I mean not "win by majority"- there's still an experience gap (though coverable to some degree).
Originally posted by Burning thought
WoW stamps all over lore just how Archimonde stamps on armies, I think Blizzard should make a "true lore" Warcraft game, another RTS perhaps or something like it that shows us the power of the characters properly, if any of you guys played Supreme commander, that sort of scale would be brilliant for a game of Warcraft RTS set in the early years of Azeroth, i would love to see what happened myself during the war of the ancients and Sargerus battles and the Aspects in true scale.
That would be truelly awesome 🪩
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Yeah, like that. That just looks stupid. Anyways, Dante being the strongest demonic being in his universe (canon) can probably give a fight to the Archimonde tier demons- not PWN them for majority, of course, they're your typical highest tier demon lord- as per rank, they're equal to Mundus, Dante's dad and Dante himself (though as hybrid he's more powerful than those two, but there's a huge experience gap that isn't fully covered even by Dante's uncanny improvisation ability).
Note that by "give a fight" I mean not "win by majority"- there's still an experience gap (though coverable to some degree).
The problem would be that Blizzard has made Archimonde horribly powerful in lore and basically the ulimate debating character. His endurance is of such amount that it required a plot-"device" to harm him. He destroyed a full-grown dragon with a telekinetic grasp. He has also developed an art of warlock magic called "Hand of Death" and "Figer of Death", which is basically working in the way that instead of harming the target, it kills it by from the inside turning something inside-out (Also works with buildings)
However, for all we know, Kil'Jaeden has not mastered these killing arts. He has the endurance, but I am sure that if Dante is given enough time he could stand a chance of penetrating the endurance. Kil'Jaeden is the genious, while Archimonde is the fighter.
Well, Dante in his prime (DMC2) has developed strong resistance to "instant kill" demonic magic based spells (the knock down in the first fight with Mundus doesn't count- see above with experience gap). The manual to the game and the one on that version of Dante "exported" into Nocturne (statswise Nocturne is canon, as stats were approved by Capcom being the same as in DMC2, but storylinewise SMT:Nocturne is one huge fanfiction of a game).
Dante isn't genius in sence of being uberwarlock\scientific sence, but his talent to improvise is second to none, "everything goes as a weapon" is his motto, and that (as was written above) gives him the chance to close the experience gap.
Sparda\Super Sparda form has all the things associated with high level demons like conjuring up meteors\fire dragons, instant death blasts (though their oneshotting everything properties can be partially gameplay). Powersetwise it's not that inferior to demon lords in Warcraft, probably in size (high demonic form (Sparda form) is only about 3 meters tall, size of 2 store building as seen in DMC2). Experience is the thing, though.
But the fight I'd LOVE to see is Dante vs Illidann (spelling?), later being the only character in Warcraft I do care about.