King Henry VIII Of England

I have to laugh at this guy. 😂 😂 😂
Okay now that is out of my system.
He slept around and remarried 6 times and had almost 30 kids (from wives and mistresses).And this was all for one thing and one thing only.A legitimate male heir.No he couldn't have a girl! Absolutely not.He must have a boy.And out of these almost 30 kids all he had was 3 heirs.
And the boy was (of course 🙄 ) first.All that work for Henry and all he got was a sickly boy king only capable of making it to the age 13.And he did an awful job as king.
And next came his oldest daughter who was nuts!Killing people,displaying parts of their body's through out town.
And the best thing Henry ever did was have Elizabeth "Good Queen Bess" the last person he suspected to be a good ruler.
The guy was an idiot.Or am I the only one who thinks this way?

Henry the VIII was a fool, I agree.

You got to love the episode of the Simpsons where they parodied him though.

Originally posted by X-Menfan87
I have to laugh at this guy.

why? He instituted a monarchy, that while not totally thought through, has sustained the Bristish people, and empire, for quite a lot longer than his contemporaries thought it would.

He's an idiot because he made himself head of the church just so he could divorce Catalina of Aragon.Which didn't work out the way he wanted,so later he tried to back out of it saying he shouldn't have done it,just so he could have his marriage to Anne Boleyn annulled.And both were annulled because neither wives gave him what he wanted.
That is what makes him an idiot.A sneaky idiot.But an idiot none the less.

He exercised his power to the fullest extent. He transformed Church the way it suited him - that was in his power, because he was afterall, chosen by God to be a king...or so was believed.

I personaly am a far bigger fan of Henry VII as far as politics go. He had it together. 👆

The best ways to remember what happened to Henry VIII's wifes - beheaded, divorced, died, beheaded, divorced, survived. 😊

I love that.

Originally posted by X-Menfan87
He's an idiot because he made himself head of the church just so he could divorce Catalina of Aragon.Which didn't work out the way he wanted,so later he tried to back out of it saying he shouldn't have done it,just so he could have his marriage to Anne Boleyn annulled.And both were annulled because neither wives gave him what he wanted.
That is what makes him an idiot.A sneaky idiot.But an idiot none the less.

I think that makes him a positive influence on history. I'm not debating his selfishness, but the long term effects are positive.

He was an idiot? A rich powerful idiot who took on the most powerful man institution in the world...and won!

Not bad for a half-witted. selfish, fat, lazy idiot. 😉

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He exercised his power to the fullest extent. He transformed Church the way it suited him - that was in his power, because he was afterall, chosen by God to be a king...or so was believed.

I personaly am a far bigger fan of Henry VII as far as politics go. He had it together. 👆

The best ways to remember what happened to Henry VIII's wifes - beheaded, divorced, died, beheaded, divorced, survived. 😊

I love that.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I think that makes him a positive influence on history. I'm not debating his selfishness, but the long term effects are positive.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
He was an idiot? A rich powerful idiot who took on the most powerful man institution in the world...and won!

Not bad for a half-witted. selfish, fat, lazy idiot. 😉

Originally posted by X-Menfan87
How is that positive? 😕

Good point!

I really hate how he just created a church so he could divorce and killed women because they wouldn't give him what he wanted. I don't know much about the man but he sounds like a total ass.

I didn't know there was a History forum... 😑 Henry the VIII, is one of my favorite characters in history....Really exciting....All he wanted was a Male heir.....He would even kill to get it. Besides that he was so unhealthy that he had his own special doctors supplying him with herbal concoctions for his digestive system, and I think also gout. These physicians were not available to to common people. Also, if the common people used similar concoctions of herbs, roots...etc....They were said to be in cahoots with the devil......Witch Craft.

Originally posted by X-Menfan87
No ❌
1st (Catalina of Aragon)Divorced and Died,
2nd (Anne Boleyn)Divorced and beheaded,
3rd (Jane Seymour)had the sense to die before he tired of her,
4th (Anne of Cleves)Divorced,
5th (Cathrine Howard)Beheaded,
6th (Cathrine Parr)Out lived him.
Trust me I know,I had to do a 10 page report him. 😘

Ha, I just released I swopped the words around. 😂

I do that with numbers, as well.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Besides that he was so unhealthy that he had his own special doctors supplying him with herbal concoctions for his digestive system, and I think also gout.

He was incredibly unhealthy.. He was massively overweight (had a 54 inch (137cm) waist). Suffered from Gout as you said.. he also had syphilis from birth... He had an ulcerated wound on his thigh from a jousting accident.. this wound meant he couldn't exercise anymore.. and this led to him putting on a huge amount of weight.

Originally posted by T.M
He was incredibly unhealthy.. He was massively overweight (had a 54 inch (137cm) waist). Suffered from Gout as you said.. he also had syphilis from birth... He had an ulcerated wound on his thigh from a jousting accident.. this wound meant he couldn't exercise anymore.. and this led to him putting on a huge amount of weight.

From what I have read about Henry, he was quite a catch in his younger days, and yes quite fit. It's interesting how the story continues on to his daughter Elizabeth with Mary (bloody Mary) for the thrown because of no male heir. Quite fascinating though sad story....Cause eventually Elizabeth had Mary executed, though I had read that she did have remorse over it, but still it had to be done in the name of the thrown.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well I guess he gave all his wives syphilis then and as we all know syphilis will eventually destroy your brain and cause "Crazy like" behaviors....I think I had also read that Hitler had it, but not sure.

From what I have read about Henry, he was quite a catch in his younger days, and yes quite fit. It's interesting how the story continues on to his daughter Elizabeth with Mary (bloody Mary) for the thrown because of no male heir. Quite fascinating though sad story....Cause eventually Elizabeth had Mary executed, though I had read that she did have remorse over it, but still it had to be done in the name of the thrown.

He was indeed 'catch' in his younger days. He was considered one of, if not the most attractive man in Europe.

Originally posted by X-Menfan87
How is that positive? 😕

For a major world power at the time to come out and refuse the influence of Rome on the world? Pretty positive.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ha, I just released I swopped the words around. 😂

I do that with numbers, as well.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
For a major world power at the time to come out and refuse the influence of Rome on the world? Pretty positive.

Indeed. It's hardly positive that the church was now organized under Henry, who liked to kill his wives.