Personal liberties vs. moral decline

Started by Bardock428 pages
Originally posted by Janus Marius
I honestly don't keep up with professional sports. If I wanted to see large groups of people overexerting themselves for something as fruitless as getting the goal or the point with even more people watching, I'd come here.

Ha...good ione.....one for the profile quotes

Yeah, good point. *Stuffs it in profile*

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Gays and junkees are the most likely carriers of the disease.

Actually, the group with the higest number of newly reported cases is black women between 18 and 30.

Originally posted by The Omega
MAN! The IGNORANCE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by The Omega
What, I ask, does that say of the one posing that assumption?

Hmmm… 🙂

That the law is all that's keeping themselves from sleeping with goats and dead people. But, their morals prevents them.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Actually, the group with the higest number of newly reported cases is black women between 18 and 30.

THat may be, but the arguement was that Homosexuals are the largest group already having the disease....

Originally posted by Bardock42
THat may be, but the arguement was that Homosexuals are the largest group already having the disease....

Considering homosexuals are not a species unto themselves, I would imagine the comparative ratio of gay people to straight people is far less. There for, who has more occurances of the disease? Straight people of any age/race or gay people of any age/race?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Considering homosexuals are not a species unto themselves, I would imagine the comparative ratio of gay people to straight people is far less. There for, who has more occurances of the disease? Straight people of any age/race or gay people of any age/race?

Yes, that was the question....I don't know, I'm not familiar with any of those statistics.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic

That the law is all that's keeping themselves from sleeping with goats and dead people. But, their morals prevents them.

Exactly. Their fear of the LAW and their fear of GOD.
Scary, isn't it? That it's not an inherent idea that these things are bad?

Originally posted by Bardock42
THat may be, but the arguement was that Homosexuals are the largest group already having the disease....

I think the argument was that AIDS originated among homosexuals. Which it did not.
The current statistics are http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

Yes, it may be that the HI-virus originally spread in certain “gay” communities, because these people did not at the time use condoms – heck, why should they have back then? As soon as the gravity of the situation became clear however, the number of heterosexual cases began to explode.
If only homosexual men were infected first how did it jump to heterosexuals?
Today 46% of all infected humans are WOMEN. And I’ll go ahead and accuse the Catholic Church and straight looser-men abusing women in brothels and insisting on not using protection for that.
To the best of our medical knowledge AIDS originated in Africa, and spread there as well, among both homo- and heterosexuals.

The Omega>I was only referring to this statement...

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Gays and junkees are the most likely carriers of the disease.

...wich Capt quoted, and whioch claims that Homosexuals are the largest group infected with HIV....or maybe that the percentage is the largest....

The Statistics is sadly of no use since it doesn't show a split between Hetero-, Homo, and Bisexual people.

Bardock> Oh, ok. Sorry, didn't see that one.

" 19th March 2003 - New research from Isis Research, an independent healthcare market research agency, finds that far from being a disease that affects homosexuals and drug users, 51% of newly diagnosed HIV patients in Europe are in fact heterosexual against just 36% homosexual. As a result of this shift, the number of females being diagnosed with HIV is fast catching up with the number of males."
http://www.countrydoctor.co.uk/education/education%20-%20HIV%20-%20AIDS.htm

I do not know the actual homo/hetero-rate. The thing is, that it has become an epidemic by epidemiological (?) standards, and if society continues to treat this as a "gay disease" we'll be getting no where. If action is not taken, we risk tb and measles because the background-population immune-system is lowered.

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock> Oh, ok. Sorry, didn't see that one.

" 19th March 2003 - New research from Isis Research, an independent healthcare market research agency, finds that far from being a disease that affects homosexuals and drug users, 51% of newly diagnosed HIV patients in Europe are in fact heterosexual against just 36% homosexual. As a result of this shift, the number of females being diagnosed with HIV is fast catching up with the number of males."
http://www.countrydoctor.co.uk/education/education%20-%20HIV%20-%20AIDS.htm

I do not know the actual homo/hetero-rate. The thing is, that it has become an epidemic by epidemiological (?) standards, and if society continues to treat this as a "gay disease" we'll be getting no where. If action is not taken, we risk tb and measles because the background-population immune-system is lowered.

I am wondering what the other 13% are....

The rest I agree....it obviously is not a "gay-disease"....

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am wondering what the other 13% are....

Junkees.

MAN! The IGNORANCE!!!!!!!

I asked the question out of my own self-aware ignorance. That was the only theory I had heard. Excuse me for having not heard of any other possibilty.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Junkees.

Oh yeah..I remember, the three sexualities...hetero, homo and junkie.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh yeah..I remember, the three sexualities...hetero, homo and junkie.

The other 13% are due to drug use--NOT sexual activity.

Originally posted by The Omega
I do not know the actual homo/hetero-rate. The thing is, that it has become an epidemic by epidemiological (?) standards, and if society continues to treat this as a "gay disease" we'll be getting no where. If action is not taken, we risk tb and measles because the background-population immune-system is lowered.

Now maybe I'm just ignorant but anywhere I have lived in the past 15 years hasn't addresses HIV nor AIDS as a gay problem but a world problem. What would be interesting to read is how many of the newly infected individuals practiced safe sex and how many had multiple partners in a short time period🙂 Hetero or Homo I don't care it does require everyone think before taking action.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
The other 13% are due to drug use--NOT sexual activity.

But that doesn't make sense...since junkies are also either hetero or homo (or bi) ... so the wording is certainly weird....

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am wondering what the other 13% are....

The rest I agree....it obviously is not a "gay-disease"....

That's a good question, homes. Dirty needles aren't as prevalent as they were in the 80's and 90's. Now a days, tattoo parlors are as sterile as an emergency room, so that's really no longer an issue either.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
No, but it definitely seems like it did.

Anyone having problems grasping the magnitude of this?

So, you know AIDS doesn't come from homosexual intercourse, but...it still seems like it did...?

How do you come up with this? You KNOW that it's false, but you continue to claim otherwise. Why? Because you'd liked it to have come from homosexuals having sex?

If I fall down the stairs and end up battered and bruised, then a cop comes over and asks me if I got beat up, do I say:

"No, I fell down the stairs." or "No, but it seems like I did."?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyone having problems grasping the magnitude of this?

So, you know AIDS doesn't come from that, but...it still seems like it did...?

-AC

Not really, no.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyone having problems grasping the magnitude of this?

So, you know AIDS doesn't come from homosexual intercourse, but...it still seems like it did...?

How do you come up with this? You KNOW that it's false, but you continue to claim otherwise. Why? Because you'd liked it to have come from homosexuals having sex?

If I fall down the stairs and end up battered and bruised, then a cop comes over and asks me if I got beat up, do I say:

"No, I fell down the stairs." or "No, but it seems like I did."?

-AC

-AC

I was referring to the fact that its so commonly associated with homosexuals.