United 93
What are your feelings about this film? Are you against this film? Do you think it should not be told?
Personally, I plan on seeing it as soon as I'm better (sick right now). It looks great and I have no problem with a film such as this, which is supposed to be done very carefully and tastefully, from what I've heard.
What do you think?
Pointless and tasteless, IMO. Not to mention, hardly any of the money's going to help fund the memorial.
Writer-director Paul Greengrass' "United 93" will open April 28 and Universal Pictures will donate 10 percent of the first three days' grosses to the memorial, the Families of Flight 93 announced Thursday.
It's just a pretentious idea to begin with, thinking you're honoring the memory of those who died, with a story that some guy thinks happened.
Seeing the movie is the only sure fire way to know if this is much more than feel good propaganda, going with the "Let's roll.." story we've all been led to believe happened, when in fact, to this day, nobody knows what happened aboard the flight.
There's just no need for this movie, there's nothing to gain, nothing to entertain, and nothing to captivate. It's an outsiders assumption of what happened on a hijacked plane almost 6 years ago.
The movie poster is not only irrelevant to the movie, it's borderline offensive, conjuring up things that we'd rather forget, but can't, and won't be allowed to by shit like this.
It's about a field in PENNSYLVANIA..not New York, anyway. If this were being directed by a US director, I'd be infinitely ashamed.
He's not just making stuff up blindly, he's had a lot of help from the people who were working that day on the flight deck and even directly from the families of the people who died on the plane.
And from what I've heard this movie is in no way propaganda, it offers no meaning or message of any sort - political or otherwise- it just shows the events as they could best be conjured. According to reports and to those who experienced them on the ground while they were occuring.
Also, tragedies shouldn't be forgotten, especially of this magnitude, otherwise we're bound to repeat them. Wilfully ignoring these events is far more pretentious then allowing artists to deal with them as they see fit.
When I Went To See SM4 There Was A Little Documentary Of The Director Interveiwing Two Or Three People Whose Family Members Died On 9/11.
Who Are The People Who Told That Ass He Could Make This Movie To Speak For The Hundreds If Not Thousands Of Others Whose Lifes Were Affected By This!? And No Tradgedies Should Not Be Forgotten. Far From It, What They SHOULD be Is Respected. At Least Enough Not To Be Exploited For A Quick Sympethy Buck. Pffft Bad Road, Bad Road.
Honestly, I couldn't care less how accurately this film depicts the events of 9/11... if it's entertaining, it's entertaining. Simple as that. I'm not going to hold the fact that its subject matter may be controversial against it... and I'm not going to see the film just because of that. From what I've seen of the film it looks very hit or miss... it could go either way for me. Though I have to say I've yet to see anything to intrigue me enough to see it at the cinemas...
As a side note, I could have sworn I've seen this being advertised before under the name "Flight 93"... what's the deal?
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
As a side note, I could have sworn I've seen this being advertised before under the name "Flight 93"... what's the deal?
Studios do that sometimes. I think they think change names just because the film would appeal to that region under that title. In the states, for instance they have the movie Flying High under the title Aeroplane!. However, I suppose your guess is as good as mine.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
As a side note, I could have sworn I've seen this being advertised before under the name "Flight 93"... what's the deal?
Flight 93 was the working title of the movie. It is just the name that they used while making the movie. Pretty much all movies have a working title Batman Begins working title was Batman 5 for example..
Flying High is different, Because that is the Australian name for the movie Airplane!.. It is called Airplane! pretty much everywhere I think apart from Australia. Airplane's working title was Kentucky Fried Airplane
Okay, so the director doesn't know what exactly happened on the plane. Guess what? No one does. And no one ever will. Do you blame James Cameron for predicting what happened to the captain in Titanic?
I'm personally for this movie. I hope to catch it in the theaters. Enough time has passed where we can watch this and not start bawling uncontrollably. And it's not too far in the past that we would remain unaffected like if we were to watch a WWII movie.
Re: United 93
Originally posted by BackFire
What are your feelings about this film? Are you against this film? Do you think it should not be told?Personally, I plan on seeing it as soon as I'm better (sick right now). It looks great and I have no problem with a film such as this, which is supposed to be done very carefully and tastefully, from what I've heard.
What do you think?
Absolutely! I been interesting to see how this films tells the story. But why would be someone be agaisn't it?
btw- Get better BF. Take lots of liquids and a good game of Oblivion might do you good. 😉
Re: Re: United 93
Originally posted by BackFire
He's not just making stuff up blindly, he's had a lot of help from the people who were working that day on the flight deck and even directly from the families of the people who died on the plane.And from what I've heard this movie is in no way propaganda, it offers no meaning or message of any sort - political or otherwise- it just shows the events as they could best be conjured. According to reports and to those who experienced them on the ground while they were occuring.
Also, tragedies shouldn't be forgotten, especially of this magnitude, otherwise we're bound to repeat them. Wilfully ignoring these events is far more pretentious then allowing artists to deal with them as they see fit.
See what I am getting at? How can second long cell phone accounts and clueless flight deck crew help? They can't, because they don't know what happened on that plane. Nobodies forgotten 9/11, considering we're still at war over it. We can't forget it. We're not allowed. We're not ignorning it by any means, and that doesn't mean we need somebodies assumptions of what happened to 40 people on a plane that day thrown on a movie screen.
It's fodder, at best, for a television movie. I don't think these 40 people deserve any more special recognition than those 2,500 that burned alive at the WTC. They took the supposed feel good story and ran with it, and if it ends up being the "Hollywood ending" that gets incorporated into the movie...it'll just furthur prove my point.
I mean, they made hats, t-shirts, and bumper stickers with "Let's roll.." on it, so why not market it in a movie? Go USA! 2 or 3 brave guys supposedly overtook armed terrorists, and supposedly "saved" the plane from killing more people, when it was supposedly headed for the White House, even though the President wouldn't be there anyway. Obviously, t just sounded more dramatic. 🙄
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Honestly, I couldn't care less how accurately this film depicts the events of 9/11... if it's entertaining, it's entertaining.
Nobodies going to see this movie for entertainment value. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would WANT to see it, period.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Absolutely! I been interesting to see how this films tells the story. But why would be someone be agaisn't it?
Why would anyone be for it? It's a pointless fairy tale, told by a clueless Brit? It has absolutely no redeeming factors as far as I can see.
Why would anyone be for it? Simple, for Historical fiction and story telling. Didn't Spielberg do the same for Munich? And he got recognize for it. Cinemaddiction how can you call him a clueless Brit? The man is basically trying to tell a story. Heck! don't we allow Michael Moore and what his face Spurlock to make their bias movies and make money out of a tragedy or a social issue? We should let Greengras do the same if we really believe in freedom of speech.
It already was a tvm, wasn't it? Called Flight 93, I believe?
It must be said, outside of the States, American networks have built up somewhat of a poor reputation for clamouring to make cheap ass tv movies out of tragedies before the events had even finished. Hence, Waco (made so quickly that it didn't even have the full ending), the Oklahoma bombings and, inevitably, 9/11. All with crappy tv movies.
At least they are making the effort with this one- and often, films of this nature have historical significance. The reason they deserve more attention than the 2500 who died is because they stand as a symbol of resistance in the most dire and doomed of circumstances. That's good grounds for a movie from any perspective.
(the Oklahoma bombings also part-inspired Arlington Road, a fantastic film made unfortunately a bit more irrelevant by 9/11)