7 deadly sins - Hypocrisy

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Originally posted by Alliance
If you think "LAWS" and 'laws" are different, you need to draw a greater distinction between the two by using a more appropriate term.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Alliance
2nd covenant=Vatican II? Regardless, man chose to confirm/deny those laws. Those laws were written as God's will. If you follow some and not others, you are just bastardizing the faith. YOu cant take some parts ot fhte bible literally and not others.

Agreed. One shouldnot follow some laws and not others. But we dont follow the ceremonial, dietary, and all those other laws because those were put into play to draw men to God. We have the Holy Spirit to guide us now and one of its purposes is to guide us and do for us what the law couldn't do.

But the main thing here is not that I follow some laws as mentioned in Duet and Leviticus but that I follow laws that were in effect even before those books. And even after.

Originally posted by Punker69
Agreed. One shouldnot follow some laws and not others. But we dont follow the ceremonial, dietary, and all those other laws because those were put into play to draw men to God. We have the Holy Spirit to guide us now and one of its purposes is to guide us and do for us what the law couldn't do.

This doesnt make sense to me. You say you "shouldnot follow some laws and not others" but then explain how to do so? How do you make a distinction between whats a ploy and what real. If you dismiss some laws so easily, can't you just as easily dismiss laws about homosexuality as a ploy? I'm sure if the holy spirit exists, it existed at the time of Jesus.
Originally posted by Punker69
But the main thing here is not that I follow some laws as mentioned in Duet and Leviticus but that I follow laws that were in effect even before those books. And even after.

Your method still sounds fairly arbitrary to me and more based on what you want to keep, and not what is written. You don't want to bother with food regulations or the price you can sell your daughter for, but you claim homosexuality as an "abomination" because it is written by the infallible word of god.

It did exist at the itme of Jesus. But God didn't give it unto to his people until the book of Acts. The Holy Spirit has existed since Gensis 1:2.

Your missing what im saying. Those things weren't just mentioned in the laws. What im trying to say is that some laws where in effect before and after the law of Moses was established and in effect.

Ok, and since I questioned where those were found, we aren't reaching a conclusion. I await your study to shed more light on this. 🙂

Wont really be a study.

Just reading through the first books and trying to peice it all together. But if I find anything else out i'll let ya know.

Yes there is a difference between LAWS and laws...........the LAW is the 10 commandments........the "laws" are in Leviticus along with feast days..etc.

Originally posted by Punker69
Some laws of God never change. Homosexuality and other kinds of perversion where called an abomination before God. Do you think what was an "abomination" then it suddenly righteous now? Read through Genesis and you'll see laws still in effect then too even before the Law of Moses. And Jesus taught about them in the NT.

Yes, Homosexuality was considered a crime way before Christianity came into being.

By many many cultures, other than the Ancient Greeks and Romans ofcourse.

But my take on it is, the SAME WAY Christianity copied many of its concepts and ideas from the Ancient religion Zoroastrianism (which was actually the first monotheistic religion, and the first religion to have a "God", a "devil", an "armaggedon" and a "savior"😉,

you can't blame me for thinking that Christianity copied every other culture's condemnation of homosexuality.

You gotta remember....people back then were not these genuises, they were very savage and immoral people already (all nations).....ofcourse if a straight group of ancient people know that gay people exist, they would think gays were disgusting and try to prevent thier actions by claiming homosexuality a "crime" or a "sin"

It all comes down to the fact that people who are not homosexual will never understand it, and tend to think its disgusting, and therefore NOT hesitate to call it a "sin" or outlaw it

Not all cultures condemmned homosexuality. It was guite prevelant in many classic cultures.