To Riceroost and Jinzin. My response was to Capt and not you two. I'm sorry that it's hard to accept the fact that without PIS or CIS, Ben wins more than he loses against Wolverine. Wolverine has sporadic showings in comics, one issue he can beat all the X-Men and another he gets his a$$ handed to him. As far as the pics that I posted, it was to prove my point. All the Wolverine fans can rant and rave, but written correctly Wolverine can't touch Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing and Iron Man. Ben can take an armor piercing bullet and an artillery shell without harm. I'll admit that adamantium will cut him, but IMO, Wolverine isn't strong enough to push through his hide.
I don't understand... Wolverine already has cut Thing twice without effort, he almost cut away half of his face, and still you claim Wolverine is not strong enough to inflict some serious damage ?
Ben will crush Logan if he fights him from a distance (throwing a truck at him, thunderclaps, those kinds of things) but most people are screwed when they fight Wolverine "close combat style". Thing is pretty fast, but absolutely not fast enough to dodge his claws.
Originally posted by badabing
To Riceroost and Jinzin. My response was to Capt and not you two. I'm sorry that it's hard to accept the fact that without PIS or CIS, Ben wins more than he loses against Wolverine. Wolverine has sporadic showings in comics, one issue he can beat all the X-Men and another he gets his a$$ handed to him. As far as the pics that I posted, it was to prove my point. All the Wolverine fans can rant and rave, but written correctly Wolverine can't touch Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing and Iron Man. Ben can take an armor piercing bullet and an artillery shell without harm. I'll admit that adamantium will cut him, but IMO, Wolverine isn't strong enough to push through his hide.
Originally posted by who?-kid
I don't understand... Wolverine already has cut Thing twice without effort, he almost cut away half of his face, and still you claim Wolverine is not strong enough to inflict some serious damage ?Ben will crush Logan if he fights him from a distance (throwing a truck at him, thunderclaps, those kinds of things) but most people are screwed when they fight Wolverine "close combat style". Thing is pretty fast, but absolutely not fast enough to dodge his claws.
I agree I mean has everyone seen that one where Wolverine totalled his face sheesh Thing went through some stuff to get over that I think wolverine beats thing and then I'm not entirely sure after that but Im rooting for Spidey
Originally posted by who?-kid
I don't understand... Wolverine already has cut Thing twice without effort, he almost cut away half of his face, and still you claim Wolverine is not strong enough to inflict some serious damage ?Ben will crush Logan if he fights him from a distance (throwing a truck at him, thunderclaps, those kinds of things) but most people are screwed when they fight Wolverine "close combat style". Thing is pretty fast, but absolutely not fast enough to dodge his claws.
Originally posted by badabing
Did you read my post about PIS and CIS? Did you read the part on how tough Ben's hide actually is? Ben is a world class fighter in his own right. It's funny how the Wolverine fans turned what is a "Spidey & Wolverine vs Thing" thread into a "Why Ben can't beat Wolverine" thread. My statements are backed up by fact and not who I want to win. I'm done citing examples. I'm backed up by the facts, common sense and the common opinion of the forum. That being said, I give the fight a 50-50 split in wins.
Fake pic Capt? Was it fake because Wolverine lost. Again, think about. Ben can take a high caliber, armor piercing bullet and an artillery shell without damage. But if you think that Wolverine's claw attack is more powerful than bullets and artillery, so be it. The fact is; Ben is stronger, more durable, has skills and can fight over an hour without fatiguing. IN MY OPINION, Ben is too much for Wolverine. So is Thor, Hulk, Namor and Ironman. Debate all you want, the facts will always take me back to the same conclusion. Now, I bumped the Wolverine vs Thing thread, I won't respond anymore on this thread.
Originally posted by badabing
Fake pic Capt? Was it fake because Wolverine lost. Again, think about. Ben can take a high caliber, armor piercing bullet and an artillery shell without damage. But if you think that Wolverine's claw attack is more powerful than bullets and artillery, so be it. The fact is; Ben is stronger, more durable, has skills and can fight over an hour without fatiguing. IN MY OPINION, Ben is too much for Wolverine. So is Thor, Hulk, Namor and Ironman. Debate all you want, the facts will always take me back to the same conclusion. Now, I bumped the Wolverine vs Thing thread, I won't respond anymore on this thread.
Originally posted by capt it up
no it fake becuase wolverine has never worn a suit like that to my knowledge and I own almsot ever apearence wolverine ahs ever been in. I also knwo for a fact that not 616 wolverine since no one has been able to rpove that pic is even reeal let alone 616. so don't post pics if u can not abck them up.
yes wolverien ahs proven his claws are betetr then all those things. wolevrien ahs cut thing befopre, hulk,namor ect. so to say he can't is stupid.
wolverine ahs foughten for hours on end with pit fatigue so I don't see ur piont.
bens stronger and more durable thats nice.
wolverine arm speed is much faster.
wolevrine far more agile
wolverine has far betetr reflexes
wolevrine a superior fighter
Are you wolverine8888's brother you sound freakishly like him (no offense) anyway, I say combined Spider-man and wolverine take this more than they loose, Spidey can web him up, and as it takes Ben like what 3 seconds or so, if not less to break the webbing wolverine has ample time to slash him abit ( I don't think he should be able to easily slash through Things hide, but at least cause some scratches enough to hurt and weaken Thing, and with his spidey Spider-man can at least disorient Ben once again leaving and opening for wolverine to attack. At the same time if Thing gets his hands on either of them it's essentialy game over, after all it isnt the Hulk I'm sure he could come up with a move to seriosly hurt wolverine (don't matter with spidey 1 full powerd punch and its off with his head)
Spidey and wolverine 6/10
Singly
Thing vs spidey-Thing 7/10
Thing vs wolverine- Thing 6/10
Originally posted by Sparkz
Are you wolverine8888's brother you sound freakishly like him (no offense) anyway, I say combined Spider-man and wolverine take this more than they loose, Spidey can web him up, and as it takes Ben like what 3 seconds or so, if not less to break the webbing wolverine has ample time to slash him abit ( I don't think he should be able to easily slash through Things hide, but at least cause some scratches enough to hurt and weaken Thing, and with his spidey Spider-man can at least disorient Ben once again leaving and opening for wolverine to attack. At the same time if Thing gets his hands on either of them it's essentialy game over, after all it isnt the Hulk I'm sure he could come up with a move to seriosly hurt wolverine (don't matter with spidey 1 full powerd punch and its off with his head)Spidey and wolverine 6/10
Singly
Thing vs spidey-Thing 7/10
Thing vs wolverine- Thing 6/10
also wolverine took think down with one stabbed in enemy of the state.
wolverine claws go through thin very eaisliy.
ya thing is not hulk. hulk has a healing factor and is far stronger then thing. thing does not have the pwoer hulk has and with out a healing factor so one well placed stabb and it all, but over for thing
wolverine by him self takes thing more times then lose.
wolverine has the fallowing edges
wolverine quicker
wolverine agility and reflexes are a lott better
wolverine the superior fighter.
wolverine fight characters like thing like it his job.
wolverine can take quite a good amount of htis from thing while thing can only take a few stabb and one stabb could finish thing.
Originally posted by badabing
Did you read the part on how tough Ben's hide actually is?
Ben is a world class fighter in his own right.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Not half as tough as adamantium. Of course Thing is TOUGH, I already said that, but compared to other powerhouses (Thor, Hulk, Colossus, Wonderman) his durability isn't that amazing.
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Ben is a good fighter. Ben is an underrated fighter. But Ben is also a brawler. A "world class fighter" is definitely an exaggeration. When it comes to fighting, Wolverine is the master and Thing the student. This is not up for debate.